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[–] Tenderizer@aussie.zone 12 points 7 hours ago

Fair. There's no universe in which those three companies should be foisted on passive investors at this stages.

[–] trackball_fetish@lemmy.wtf 8 points 9 hours ago

I can't stop laughing

[–] Mwa@thelemmy.club 45 points 19 hours ago (1 children)
[–] echodot@feddit.uk 11 points 7 hours ago* (last edited 7 hours ago)

It's not based it's just that every investor can see that AI has no actual profitable future. Also no one wants to have anything to do with the company run by Elon Musk, he has nothing to contribute and tends to spend his entire time generating bad PR.

These are what we call financially sound decisions.

[–] SalamenceFury@piefed.social 168 points 1 day ago (10 children)

Lol, they got told to fuck off for not being profitable.

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[–] Mwa@thelemmy.club 18 points 19 hours ago* (last edited 19 hours ago) (3 children)

ngl if AI dies i hope we get more ethical models, open-weight models (mostly) solve this, but it would be cool if it was trained only on public domain.

[–] echodot@feddit.uk 7 points 7 hours ago

Unless the AI is going to give us a cure for cancer or something I'm not really bothered. Seriously the environmental cost is ridiculous I don't care how open weight they are they still practically need a fusion reactor in order to operate and increase the temperature of the local environment by 12°

[–] spazzman6156@sh.itjust.works 4 points 13 hours ago

That's not AI dying. That's just ethical AI... Which should absolutely happen. Same for GMOs

[–] explodicle@sh.itjust.works 4 points 17 hours ago

IMHO I'm kinda glad it was trained on all the forum posts I made during what turned out to be the golden age of training data. Now the LLMs sound a little bit like me.

[–] Artisian@lemmy.world 42 points 1 day ago (1 children)

While I love the sentiment; I'm reading this decision by S&P as just about not bending their rules. AI is not thriving fast/convincingly enough to break tradition of big finance; I don't think that makes S&P an ally. And I suspect this means they'll just be joining a bit later.

[–] cardfire@sh.itjust.works 27 points 1 day ago

'A bit later' is really all the is required to meet the standard. https://www.cnbc.com/2020/07/21/tesla-isnt-a-gurantee-for-the-sp-500-even-with-year-of-profits.html

S&P Dow Jones has a history of making companies earn it, including previous Elmo ventures.

I'm not bullish on any of it, and I'm desperately trying to exit AI holdings as swiftly as I'm able, but I am deeply comforted by major indexes requiring companies demonstrate profitability or at least meaningful actual revenue beyond the self-dealing that we've seen between the IPO hopefuls.

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[–] homesweethomeMrL@lemmy.world 334 points 1 day ago (4 children)

For those that didn't see the article from yesterday, the relevant rule that they refused to waive was the one that said a company must be profitable.

lol

[–] criticon@lemmy.ca 117 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (3 children)

Lololololol the president of my company went full AI shithead recently and he posted how it was a big deal that they were going public and he was talking about how he see it as a great investment to purchase shares and I asked how it was a great investment to get shares of a company severely in the red and my comment got deleted in a few minutes

Edit: we also got claude code for everyone in the company and they are monitoring token use (as in we need to use a lot) and I asked if they were concerned that the token price would rise if the board of directors of anthropic suddenly wanted to make a profit and that comment also got deleted (this was in a virtual townhall so we can ask stuff, usually they just ignore the ones they don't want to answer but they were actually deleting them this time)

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[–] RememberTheApollo_@lemmy.world 76 points 1 day ago (20 children)

Good. Those clowns will trash the index funds that so many depend on for retirement funding if they tank. And AI certainly will, and SpaceX is dependent on the whims of a drug addicted wingnut.

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[–] MagicShel@lemmy.zip 349 points 1 day ago (5 children)

Excellent! Fuck Musk.

And while I'm not an AI hater, that is 100% the investors trying to cash out before the industry runs into trouble.

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[–] vatlark@lemmy.world 63 points 1 day ago (14 children)

I didn't know that the SNP500 had such rules, but I'm so happy they didn't cave.

I hope people sue the indexes for changing the rules. Im not sure its possible but it really makes an index meaningless if its not consistent.

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