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[–] StillAlive@piefed.world 125 points 1 day ago (25 children)

I've already withdrawn money I had invested in US.

You can't convince me this isn't bubble:

[–] Aceticon@lemmy.dbzer0.com 52 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

Here's an even more interesting one:

Nasdaq 100 vs P/E ratio historic graph

It's the P/E ratio (the ration between the stock Price of a company and it's Earnings) of the Nasdaq vs the Price.

Notice how the Nasdaq price has tracked the P/E, with since at least 2020 the stock prices not increasing because company earnings are going up but rather just from increased speculation hence the rise in the ratio of stock Prices to Earnings.

The P/E (in other words, the company stock prices relative to the actual money a company makes) is now about twice as much as back in 2020.

[–] Ontimp@feddit.org 12 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Wow that's a pretty wild statistic here. Is there historical precedent for this?

S&P 500 PE Ratio hit 120 in 2008, but thats because earnings collapsed.

[–] tempest@lemmy.ca 32 points 1 day ago (1 children)

The main issue as usual is US hegemony (or what's left of it) has a way of fucking up the rest of the world. When that bubble pops it's going to cause a whole bunch of industries trouble.

[–] Flower@sh.itjust.works 48 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Hence why there is frantic effort in decoupling from USA and connecting with alternative markets in the rest of the world.

[–] Valmond@lemmy.dbzer0.com 20 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Yeah fucking finally too!

Every fucking american crisis bleeds into our countries every goddamn time, but they? Let's do worse next time!! No regulation!! War!!

Aaaahrg.

/Rant off

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[–] eestileib@lemmy.blahaj.zone 19 points 1 day ago (6 children)

Yup I moved mostly out of usd, no stocks listed in the US, no US Treasuries.

I see either default or massive inflation or both in the cards for the US very soon.

[–] isleepinahammock@lemmy.blahaj.zone 19 points 1 day ago (3 children)

I'm still invested in some US stocks, but I'm switching my US market exposure to an index fund that weights by actual sales, revenue, and other objective factors, rather than market cap. Companies don't even get into the index unless they turn a profit first.

[–] Dead_or_Alive@lemmy.world 9 points 1 day ago (3 children)

Moving your money to overseas markets isn’t going to protect it. Other countries are having similar liquidity and bond issues. When the bubble bursts it’s going to be world wide.

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[–] krisevol@lemmus.org 12 points 1 day ago

They didn't block them, they just won't buy it until it has been on the market for a while

[–] avidamoeba@lemmy.ca 62 points 1 day ago (5 children)

Asset allocation funds might still include it. Your Vanguards and BlackRocks.

[–] tburkhol@slrpnk.net 56 points 1 day ago (1 children)

The very broad funds definitely will - VTI/VTSAX - but at lower weights and under less time pressure than the rigid index funds (VOO/VFIAX). That takes off a lot of the liquidity squeeze and (presumably) reduces their loss.

But you have to remember that people who use these funds intentionally invest in obvious losers and willingly overpay for hyped stocks because they believe, in the long run, that buying obvious losers is more than balanced by also buying the unexpected winners.

SpaceX is just the first time an oligarch tried so obviously to rig the passive investor structure to his favor, and I'm glad the S&P people didn't cave.

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[–] mlg@lemmy.world 19 points 1 day ago

The only thing I'm gonna try investing in from this AI shitshow is China's CXMT RAM since they have a good chance of shanking both Nvidia and the RAM thug monopoly lol.

[–] lechekaflan@lemmy.world 13 points 1 day ago

Fatwa all those godawful techbros.

[–] MushuChupacabra@piefed.world 39 points 1 day ago

Oh thank god

[–] mannycalavera@feddit.uk 21 points 1 day ago

Fuck Musk.

But let's be real they'll just wait the standard length for entry. No big deal for them. If he needs more funds I'm sure he can ask the US government again.

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