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[–] frustrated_phagocytosis@fedia.io 19 points 2 hours ago

People should know that donating land like this is not at all guaranteed to keep the land from being developed. Promises to keep parks in existence is nothing when the city "needs" a new development, hospital, data center, whatever.

[–] cogman@lemmy.world 52 points 3 hours ago

One of the more fucked up aspects of eminent domain. City/county/state governments can nuke deeds by using eminent domain. It allows them to turn a plot of land, regardless prior restrictions, into things like dumps.

The fucked up part about it is they can also turn public lands into private lands with that same trick.

What's frustrating is we still need eminent domain for good. It's basically the only way to build railways and roads. It even ends up being one of the few ways to deploy things like district heating/cooling and new fiber lines.

[–] IcedRaktajino@startrek.website 90 points 3 hours ago
[–] Arrandee@lemmy.world 69 points 3 hours ago* (last edited 3 hours ago) (3 children)

She’s gonna get a share of the lease revenue on that, right?

…right?

[–] IcedRaktajino@startrek.website 63 points 3 hours ago* (last edited 3 hours ago) (2 children)

Even if they didn't do her dirty, she wouldn't. She donated it to the city and relinquished ownership of it. The expectation, even written into the deed, was that the land was to be used as a park, but they turned around and sold it multiple times. Despite the stipulation in the original deed to the parks and recreation department, the data center is still going forward.

The story is just such a tragedy all around.

[–] Arrandee@lemmy.world 44 points 2 hours ago (1 children)

Huh, I’m not an attorney but that sure seems actionable if the intended use was documented in a contract.

[–] IcedRaktajino@startrek.website 45 points 2 hours ago* (last edited 1 hour ago) (1 children)

She's got an attorney and they're trying to stop it based on that, but it just seems like everyone involved (edit: besides her) just doesn't give a fuck.

[–] db2@lemmy.world 35 points 2 hours ago (2 children)

They've been taught that if they ignore the law and do whatever they want to they don't get punched in the face.

That will only go on for so long but it's going to suck until someone gets punchy.

[–] Mirshe@lemmy.world 19 points 2 hours ago

Especially with the recent East Wing argument, the lesson is "if you do it fast enough and ignore other people getting angry about it, you can do whatever you want."

[–] iThinkDifferentThanU@lemmy.world 11 points 2 hours ago* (last edited 2 hours ago)

gimme some wiskey and point them out, I get punchy, 1 shot or 20

[–] bluGill@fedia.io 3 points 2 hours ago (1 children)

While in many ways it is a tragedy, the cure is often worse. I on balance oppose deed restrictions, either you own the land and pay taxes, or you give up all control. Deed restrictions just force future generations to live by your values and that is a bad thing.

[–] IcedRaktajino@startrek.website 14 points 2 hours ago* (last edited 2 hours ago) (1 children)

It's a lot like another commenter mentioned about eminent domain. It can be used for good (roads, fiber deployments, district heating, etc) but also for things not so good (data centers, etc).

I went out of my way to find a house that didn't even have a vestigial HOA deed restriction, so I get that. But when a private citizen donates something to the local municipality, it's pretty egregious to not honor those restrictions, especially for things that may take a while to develop.

I'd donate my share of my family's farmland to build a park, but I wouldn't sell it for all the money in the world to build a datacenter or landfill or anything else, really.

[–] bluGill@fedia.io 5 points 2 hours ago

It is a jerk move for sure and the voters should be mad about this. If you can't keep your word without a contract that says a lot about your lack of honor.

I'm talking pure legality here though. The cities actions are legal and should be. They are however dishonorable and nobody should deal with the city again.

[–] crandlecan@mander.xyz 6 points 3 hours ago (1 children)
[–] brem@lemmy.world 2 points 3 hours ago

Best they can do is no trees, half of everyone riding mobility scooters and neighbors with dogs that can poop EVERYWHERE.

[–] SirEDCaLot@lemmy.today 6 points 1 hour ago (1 children)

And this is why you need a lawyer when you're doing this kind of thing.

If this farmer was smart, there would be a clause in the contract that the land may only be used for a park or other public space. And that if the city decides to resell the land, the farmer or their descendants will have the right to reclaim it.

Thus, farmer could either stop the data center or at least get a solid payday.

[–] HailSeitan@lemmy.world 1 points 3 minutes ago

If you read the article, there was exactly this sort of clause in the deed, and now the courts are saying “fuck you”

[–] brem@lemmy.world 27 points 3 hours ago (1 children)

I was curious where the land was, and if I could help in any way.

It's in Texas. I made a promise to myself that I'd never go back to Texas.

Texas. Fucking. Suuuuuucks.

[–] violentfart@lemmy.world 6 points 1 hour ago (2 children)

“Don’t mess with Texas” now has a different meaning.

[–] el_muerte@lemmy.ca 5 points 57 minutes ago

"Don't mess with Texas, it might be contagious"

[–] brem@lemmy.world 3 points 50 minutes ago

Just like "Everything Is Bigger In Texas" is considered a self-own to the rest of the world, they're the brunt of the joke. (Sorry Austin, you too. Yes, even SXSW)

[–] reksas@sopuli.xyz 2 points 1 hour ago (1 children)

if you just give it away, assume it will be used for the worst thing you can imagine. You give it away with strict agreement that it will be used only for things you have intended.

[–] HailSeitan@lemmy.world 1 points 2 minutes ago

There was a specific clause in the deed that it had to be used for a park, and now that is not being honored