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[–] Rumo161@feddit.org 1 points 4 days ago

This is so far from each other and also not helping the people in palestine in their horrible Situation. You are actually harming them by softening their role in this crisis. Its not Israel against Palestrina. Its the Israeligovermentt and Hamas against the people of Israel and Palestine.

[–] dessalines@lemmy.ml 20 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (6 children)

Redditors please consult the chart:

[–] prototype_g2@lemmy.ml 12 points 2 months ago (3 children)

hmm... And why would you say supporting Russia and Palestine count has "understanding geopolitics"? I say this as someone who does not know too much about it.

[–] REEEEvolution@lemmygrad.ml 16 points 2 months ago (4 children)

Both Palestine and Russia are on the western "to be conquered"-list. The difference that Russia can muster enough military power to directly oppose those plans. Palestine is in amuch worse position. Both however, are support worthy because of their place on that list.

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[–] dessalines@lemmy.ml 10 points 2 months ago (3 children)

Posting to !asklemmygrad@lemmygrad.ml would likely get a lot of good answers.

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[–] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 9 points 2 months ago

Both work against US Imperial Hegemony. Palestinian liberation is fully supported as it's a national liberation movement for people subjected to settler-colonial genocide, critical support for Russia is due to it currently working against US dominance, which is the primary obstacle for Humanity to progress economically into a more equitable global system.

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[–] eldavi@lemmy.ml 14 points 2 months ago (1 children)

the comments and the downvotes would be fascinating if it weren't so clear that they come from a place of deeply ingrained willful ignorance.

even the american liberal media is starting to admit that this is true, yet american liberals clutch onto it for whatever reason and i wish i could understand why.

[–] AnarchoBolshevik@lemmygrad.ml 29 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (3 children)

My guess is that their thinking is based on the sunk cost fallacy. The Western ruling class has been wasting everybody’s tax dollars on this conflict for several years now and nobody wants to see all of that dosh go to waste by letting Kiev and Moscow sign a peace treaty that inhibits NATO expansion.

What I find upsetting is how so many people can dismiss the antisemites in the Ukrainian military and other institutions with half-baked excuses like ‘it’s okay because the neo-Nazis are all gone now’ (which they aren’t), ‘it’s okay because they have a Jewish president’ (who isn’t fixing the problem), and ‘it’s okay because Russia’s got neo-Nazis too’ (which is irrelevant; they aren’t the ones benefitting from our tax dollars). I know that it doesn’t bother neoclassical liberals to keep beating their war drums, but that they can gloss over Ukrainian antisemitism as a nonissue and an open and shut case… just astonishes me.

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[–] teagrrl@lemmy.ml 14 points 2 months ago

the lemmyworlds and their orbiters are gonna be upset about this one

[–] yistdaj@pawb.social 13 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (7 children)

I feel like you've built two straw-men and conflated them together. I haven't seen anybody arguing either case on the left side of the meme in response to the images depicted (or similar) on the right side of the meme. People wanting to send weapons to Ukraine generally tend to also say it doesn't have a Nazi problem (and may compare Russia with Nazis), and people wanting pacifism in Palestine also don't like weapons and support sent to Israel.

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