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Electric Vehicles are a key part of our tomorrow and how we get there. If we can get all the fossil fuel vehicles off our roads, out of our seas and out of our skies, we'll have a much better environment. This community is where we discuss the various different vehicles and news stories regarding electric transportation.
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Absolutely mind-melting to hear reps from a company that salvaged the concept of GE's EV-1 and turned it into the wildly popular Prius turn around and bemoan battery powered cars.
What causes executives in the automotive industry to commit these acts of self-harm so consistently?
Yes, you’re alone in defending a technology that after a century of intensifying development has 40% efficiency (whereas the tech you’re moaning about has 20 years of intense development and has already hit over 80%), consumes a limited, nonrenewable resource, and has significant responsibility for potentially human-extinction-causing climate change.
You feckless idiot!
I think you might have missed the exhaust killing hundreds of millions of people. No biggie I suppose.
This is the guy who wore a MAGA hat to the Indy 500?
No.
Toyota isn't part of Indycar.
That was a promotional event with NASCAR at Fuji Speedway, last year.
Everyone wears MAGA hats at Indy or NASCAR.
Roger Penske sucking orange cock.
The Chairman will be responsible for the collapse of Toyota.
For the sixth consecutive year, Toyota is the world’s best-selling automaker.
Seems to be doing alright.
he's already said they can't compete with Chinese EVs, as has the Honda and Ford CEO. Past performance is no predictor of future outcomes and they're both milking ICE for as long as they can while most of the world pivots away. Then retire and leave the next CEO yo deal with the shit show they left behind.
i think Toyota will survive, Nissan, Mazda, Honda will not. Suzuki's pivot to India may work for them.
https://moneywise.com/auto/auto/toyota-honda-ford-ceos-warning-china-portfolio
And, a recent tour of one of the Asian powerhouse's vehicle plants has proved this beyond a shadow of a doubt, at least to Honda President and CEO Toshihiro Mibe.
"We have no chance against this," Mibe said (9) upon a visit to a Shanghai parts factory, commenting on its seamless automation across all levels of production. Logistics, procurement and all aspects of the process were so automated, in fact, that he did not spot a single human worker on the supplier's floor.
even with motorbikes, Honda holds a huge lead in motorbikes around the world, Vietnam legislated to ban the sale of new ice motorbikes and what did Honda do ? petition them to not do that.
May he combust like the engines he works so tirelessly to defend.
If Akio had access to the internet, he'd be up to speed in the car industry:
"ICE car sales continue to plummet in China, the top 16 cars are now electric".
Don't anyone try to tell me what I "demand".
Fuck ICE whether it be engine or government agency
says he feels "very alone" in defending combustion engines
Maybe stop doing that?
Weird, mine is having to live through a modern reenactment of the end Permian extinction event
this is so Japanese......
almost every time i watch Japanese news program, some capitalist elderly straight male (probably also predator) is complaining about social progress and using emotional appeals like "it's sad that traditional men aren't valued anymore..."
when that isn't even true in any empirical sense!
fucking get off the planet, comb-over!
I love an ICE engine myself. Which is why my I have a shed full of antiques that I run once every few months on a nice day. My daily driver is electric though, I wouldn't risk a car I love on the road. (My daily driver is an ebike but for bad weather and long trips I have an electric car)
Reading his complaint I was thinking, combustion engines will still be around, after all I see people driving steam powered antique autos almost every summer. But that doesn't mean we should stay dependent on old, damaging tech for basic tasks
Yeah but Toyota’s market is daily drivers. Camry, RAV4, boring everyday cars. These are cars that can already go electric for most people.
Good
Its old tech with a finite fuel source thats only getting continued because of other stupid old fucks.
Like an astronomer defending heliocentrism.
Is this nominative determinism or is he part of a dynasty that founded the company?
Grandson of the guy who turned it into a car company, and great grandson of the guy who founded the company.
But also worth pointing out that a lot of Japanese companies maintain the family lineage of CEOs through adult adoption, where the person identified as the heir apparent literally changes their last name and gets adopted into the founding family. I think Suzuki has done it 3 or 4 times, where the President of the company is named Suzuki but is not a blood relative, and is the adopted son of the previous President.
It's the latter. Toyota as a car brand was founded in 1937 by Toyoda Kiichirō and Toyoda Eiji.
Combustion cars don't need defending, they need phasing out.
And it is simply dumb to insist on combustion cars at this point. Toyota had some kind of advantage with hybrids way back, then they went and squandered a bunch of money and time on hydrogen which is also dumb, maybe even dumber...
EV-drivetrain hybrids (eg an EV with a small battery + ~3 horsepower range extender) are a good idea, though.
It's kind of the best of both worlds. And insanely fuel efficient, even if one uses that generator all the time.
ICE drivetrain hybrids are insane, though. It was the only option at the time, but it's also basically the worst of both worlds.
I think the problem is marketing, though.
Try explaining the hybrid distinction to a layman. Or to a snooty, higher end EV buyer turning their nose up at anything that takes gas.
I thought he'd double down on hydrogen.