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[–] actionjbone@sh.itjust.works 212 points 1 week ago (2 children)

Counterpoint: no, it's not, because I'm not stupid enough to install it.

[–] KingKong33@lemmy.ml 87 points 1 week ago (1 children)
[–] actionjbone@sh.itjust.works 8 points 1 week ago

Sadly, I have one that I need for some freelance work. But I don't use it too much.

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[–] ChojinDSL@discuss.tchncs.de 136 points 1 week ago

Oh, it's most likely doing something. Just nothing you would want.

[–] Kolanaki@pawb.social 105 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (2 children)

Wouldn't Windows 11 be the worst app on your Windows 11 PC? 🤔

[–] SaharaMaleikuhm@feddit.org 20 points 1 week ago (3 children)

It's probably just teams, right?

[–] greybeard@feddit.online 5 points 1 week ago (2 children)

It's all sharepoint under the hood.

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[–] P1nkman@lemmy.world 13 points 1 week ago

Technically.... Yes.

[–] qupada@fedia.io 71 points 1 week ago (4 children)

Without having read the article, lemme guess... Electron.

Maybe now that no-one can afford RAM these companies might get motivated to do something about that. Hell, I'd accept them just feeling shamed into not being the worst memory hog on your system at this point, over any altruistic reason.

See also: Discord and Slack, two other colossal wastes of space that use an order of magnitude more RAM than a native app would while running slower and providing absolutely zero other benefits.

[–] scrubbles@poptalk.scrubbles.tech 25 points 1 week ago (1 children)

The worst part about electron is that there is no way for it to share resources like a browser. You have to oacjage the whole version together, when really should should have been more like a pwa. Instead you have 10 electron instances, running with 10x the respurce needs.

[–] Crit@lemmy.wtf 13 points 1 week ago

that's why you just skip the middleman and run it in your browser instead.

[–] carotte@lemmy.blahaj.zone 12 points 1 week ago (1 children)

my friend has 16gb of ram and he keeps hitting out-of-memory errors when he has like 5 apps open, because they’re all electron and they all take like 2gb each, it’s ridiculous

[–] CanIFishHere@lemmy.ca 8 points 1 week ago (4 children)

Your friend has disabled the swap file. Never a good idea.

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[–] gemakey@lemmy.world 10 points 1 week ago (1 children)

They don't care if you can't afford it. Data centers are buying them by the truckload.

[–] Beacon@fedia.io 8 points 1 week ago

OP was talking about the software companies, not the ram companies

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[–] Zacryon@feddit.org 42 points 1 week ago (2 children)

People using Meta's products are masochists.

"Yes, daddy, please violate my privacy even more and manipulate me into hating myself and making me addicted to your shit."

[–] Newuser@lemmy.world 20 points 1 week ago (5 children)

Well most people dont have any other option since 100% of your friends and families are exclusively on WhatsApp , whatsapp had early mover advantage it was free and easy to use so now everyone just uses it

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[–] wanderinglurk@lemmy.world 12 points 1 week ago

My government and employers would not move away from WhatsApp, so, short of lobbying, I am forced to remain.

[–] dgriffith@aussie.zone 39 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (8 children)

No, the worst app is Windows 11. My parents have some all-in-one HP PC. It has some Intel laptop processor from about 8 years ago, 16GB of ram, (upgraded from 8), and a wheezy 256GB spinning drive, running Win10 adequately.

After being bombarded with "upgrade to Windows 11! It's easy and fun!!" notifications, they did so, and of course their PC is woefully underpowered for the job.

I log in remotely and check what's running and the OS is paging to the swap file constantly. [Edit: and I mean, to the point where opening an application takes 60 seconds of disk thrashing for a window to appear]

I had to get a de-bloat script and turn off about 50 Microsoft "essential services". The biggest hog out of them all was copilot, which was using about 4GB while sitting there idle.

I have no doubt that I'm going to have to run that script every month as everything gets "repaired", until I can get back to their place and put a SSD in and maybe install some flavour of Linux.

[–] saltesc@lemmy.world 17 points 1 week ago

I had to get a de-bloat script and turn off about 50 Microsoft "essential services"

And then a Windows Update comes along...

[–] lechekaflan@lemmy.world 10 points 1 week ago

Install Linux, Problem Solved.

[–] feannag@sh.itjust.works 9 points 1 week ago

My MILs computer has 8 GB of RAM... I have not yet convinced her she needs a new computer, but I did just install windows 10 iot ltsc on it so it will at least get security patches.

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[–] sevenoverthree@lemmy.world 36 points 1 week ago

Oh it's doing plenty. Just not for you.

[–] Jyek@sh.itjust.works 35 points 1 week ago (1 children)

This person fundamentally misunderstands RAM on Windows...

Apps reserve a portion of the total available memory. That memory is not necessarily in use. Memory not in use will still be available to other applications as soon as the system reallocates it when a given application needs more. Usually of you have more RAM, applications will reserve more of it. You can check a better explanation of your current memory usage in the windows resource monitor. You'll see memory allocated, memory in use, and memory being used to cache data (which windows does to reduce disk reads and writes), as well as memory completely unallocated. Chrome can easily allocate 1/3 of your total available memory by the third tab, but that doesn't mean chrome is actually using that much.

[–] morrowind@lemmy.ml 24 points 1 week ago

I mean it's an electron app. Maybe the number is inflated, but it's still a ton. The previous number he compared to (100mb) would be equally inflated, so it's fair

[–] NewNewAugustEast@lemmy.zip 31 points 1 week ago (5 children)

Why would anyone put WhatsApp on their computer?

Stop using meta people!

[–] TheTechnician27@lemmy.world 12 points 1 week ago (2 children)

"Stop using meta people!" sounds like a protest chant for the second-class citizens of a B-grade cyberpunk dystopia.

[–] morto@piefed.social 9 points 1 week ago

but we are second-class citizens in a B-grade cyberpunk dystopia...

[–] wltr@discuss.tchncs.de 5 points 1 week ago

All you need is a lack of comma, huh!

[–] carotte@lemmy.blahaj.zone 8 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

unfortunately switching away from messengers like this is much harder than other stuff cuz you have to move your entire social network over. it can be done, but unless all your friends and family are also foss and privacy nerds it’s going to be difficult

then again idk if it’s possible, but if it is, you should at least use whatsapp within a web browser. it may even consume less ram that way lol

[–] NewNewAugustEast@lemmy.zip 7 points 1 week ago (16 children)

It isn't hard to make that move though it's just inconvenient. I wouldn't play along, friends and family can fuck right off if they wont leave. It's directly funding so many nasty things I can't be part of it.

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[–] jjlinux@lemmy.zip 28 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Not too sure about the 'doing nothing' part.

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[–] boonhet@sopuli.xyz 23 points 1 week ago

My Windows 11 PC? Where?

My Linux PC doesn't have WhatsApp installed. Someone tell me where this Windows 11 PC is so I can retrieve it and install Linux on that too.

[–] ramenshaman@lemmy.world 20 points 1 week ago

Anything owned by facebook is already the worst app on whatever device it's installed on.

[–] CanIFishHere@lemmy.ca 17 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (15 children)

I don't know who is doing the testing, but they don't know what they're doing. 313MB

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[–] Wispy2891@lemmy.world 12 points 1 week ago

I'm shocked to learn that a dedicated browser always running in the background for a chat app uses 100x the memory and resources

[–] lechekaflan@lemmy.world 8 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

I'm not using it nor the Facebook Messenger app, but rather their messenger in the browser. Meta is an evil necessity in my country because the businesses I deal with are mostly active on Facebook, and almost all people are tethered to it, and I have to use a facade where I don't have to give Zuck anything about myself.

[–] psycocan@lemmy.ml 8 points 1 week ago (2 children)

It's most definitely doing alot

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[–] Captainautism@lemmy.dbzer0.com 7 points 1 week ago (2 children)

Where you fucked up is installing and using WhatsApp to begin with. It’s been shit since meta bought it.

[–] KingKong33@lemmy.ml 6 points 1 week ago (2 children)
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[–] ekZepp@lemmy.world 7 points 1 week ago (1 children)

What Windows 11 pc exactly? 😎

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[–] vrighter@discuss.tchncs.de 7 points 1 week ago

microsoft committments to ui frameworks can be gotten in bulk, for free at your nearest flea market

[–] xSikes@feddit.online 6 points 1 week ago

Or they’re mining your data….?

[–] dan69@lemmy.world 6 points 1 week ago (3 children)

Ew. Why not use the browser version

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