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I see these reasons:

  • newbie
  • lazy (don't wanna edit config files etc.)
  • unique features (like assistant/toolbox, some optimizations like in cachyos)
  • wanna check how different systems are set up (that's rather distrohopping)

Personally, I used manjaro i3 when I was beigginer and wanted to see how tiling WM should be configured (check out ranger config, for example). But after some time, I don't see reasons why not to just customize pure arch (same with debian and debian-based distros).

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[–] Neuromancer49@midwest.social 1 points 6 minutes ago

I chose EndeavourOS initially because I was relatively new to Linux (I tinkered with Ubuntu in grade school) and wanted out of Microsoft's environment. The support community is amazing and newbie-friendly. They've helped me through a few bricked systems.

Now I'm at a crux because I own a 1080 and am tired of mistakenly breaking my installation because NVIDIA stopped supporting open source drivers for old cards. I felt uncomfortable building my own driver packages and was relying on AUR, but the recent security breach has me skittish.

Rather than switch to another distro (Mint being the top contender), I decided to replace my graphics card and stay with Endeavour because it seems the Arch distros are the only ones staunchly against age verification laws. I'm fortunate enough to be in a position to update and stick with Endeavour. Maybe when I actually get good at Linux I'll switch to pure Arch.

[–] Ziglin@lemmy.world 1 points 27 minutes ago

I taught myself how to properly configure things on Linux using EndeavourOS but ended up sticking with it because there is no real reason for me to switch to pure arch. On my laptop I have NixOS and occasionally notice some of the disadvantages of having not having things pre-installed.

[–] excel@lemming.megumin.org 1 points 33 minutes ago

I have no reason to use a raw distro that requires customization when there’s a better version that already comes preconfigured.

[–] CalcProgrammer1@lemmy.today 3 points 1 hour ago

I use the Calam Arch Installer ISO to install Arch. It's the same GUI installer that most downstream Arch derivatives use, but configured to install base Arch. No dealing with messy terminal install process and you end up with pure Arch install at the end. If all the downstream distros give you is an easy installer, this exists for base Arch as well even if it is a third party thing.

[–] heliotrope@retrofed.com 4 points 1 hour ago* (last edited 1 hour ago)

I haven't run Arch in a few months, but I used to use CachyOS and Artix.

In the case of CachyOS, the repos have a few packages from the AUR pre-compiled, and linux-cachyos-hardened is a fantastic kernel flavour.

Artix, meanwhile, lets me use runit instead of systemd.

I also like the idea of Linux-libre, for which I would probably use Hyperbola (if not Guix). However, the only machine I own with a compatible WiFi chipset is a 32-bit MacBook from the 2000s, which I haven't seen since 2024.

The preconfigured desktop and software is irrelevant to me. I have my own DE recipes and workflows that I can replicate across most Linux distros and BSDs.

[–] dewritoninja@pawb.social 2 points 1 hour ago

I like endeavour cause of the pretty wallpapers

[–] Jo4ted@lemmy.zip 1 points 1 hour ago

I use CachyOS because I don't feel like going through the hassle of installing drivers for my 1070ti. The kernel optimizations are nice, tho.

[–] rozodru@piefed.world 3 points 2 hours ago

I don't use Arch anymore but I can imagine that the install process turned a lot of people off it or pivoted them to stuff like Manjaro, CachyOS, Endeavour etc. It isn't until recently that ArchInstall has become VERY good and simple.

Primary factor even with Archinstall is if you're trying to install Arch via Wifi. you have to do iwd and all that and for someone who isn't quite as comfortable on the command line yet that can be daunting. Even now for myself if I were installing Arch I still have to pull up the Arch Wiki during install cause I can never remember the iwd commands for wifi. I've also borked the install a couple times because I either forgot to include the networkmanager or selected the wrong video drivers.

[–] fascicle@leminal.space 3 points 2 hours ago

I want to, I've used arch in the past for a bit, then bazzite and then cachyos.

I want to go back to arch and set it up manually following a guide just to get more familiar with it, I just haven't had the time right now and cachyos has been working great

[–] nibbler@discuss.tchncs.de 4 points 3 hours ago

I googled 'gaming Linux distribution' and it basically gave me popos and cachy. Didn't like popos

[–] FauxLiving@lemmy.world 2 points 3 hours ago (1 children)

The installation process is intimidating for a lot of people.

I taught a friend Linux using the Arch install process.

They use EndevourOS because installation took 15 minutes instead of 3 hours.

[–] winety@lemmy.zip 2 points 2 hours ago (1 children)

Doesn't Arch have an installer these days?

[–] Ooops@feddit.org 3 points 2 hours ago

You say this as if discussions here would be based on reality instead of memes...

[–] Bimfred@lemmy.world 36 points 6 hours ago (1 children)

Because the PC enables me do do my hobbies (gaming, 3d modelling and printing), the PC itself isn't my hobby. If I spend more time tinkering with the OS than having the OS run the things I actually want to do, I'll go do something else.

[–] victorz@lemmy.world 16 points 6 hours ago (3 children)

I think this is a common misconception about Arch, that it requires continuous tinkering. I see that word used so much, too, "tinkering".

What I've been doing for the past decade is just install Arch, set things up the way I like, and then just keep everything up-to-date as I go. Of course, I install and uninstall things as I try new software, but the OS itself? Zero tinkering. I just use it.

Especially if you only game on it and stuff like that, then simple plain Arch is great. Lean system that just works. Install the things you want and enjoy.

I got two kids and way too many hobbies so I can relate to not wanting to fiddle with the OS. I run Arch on my two home desktop PCs, and my two work laptops. 🤷‍♂️ Zero maintenance.

Enjoy!

[–] Bimfred@lemmy.world 11 points 6 hours ago (1 children)

I see what you mean. But in order to reach the point where Arch is configured and my machine Just Works, I would have to learn how to install Arch, what packages I need, what are the ups and downs of the various packages for handling the same things, resolve any conflicts I accidentally created, and then I can get to installing the things I actually want. It's a lot of work and time that isn't going into something I consider fun.

Arch is great for people who want to build their OS to be precisely what they want it to be. I happen to not be one of those people.

[–] wltr@discuss.tchncs.de 5 points 5 hours ago (2 children)

Why Arch based distro then? Why not, say, Fedora? Debian. Popos.

[–] Bimfred@lemmy.world 6 points 4 hours ago (1 children)

The complicated parts of the setup are already done and I still get the benefits of a fast update schedule, without (mostly) having to worry about accidentally breaking something.

And you're right about running another, less finicky distro. It's why I've got Bazzite on the HTPC and the handheld. Because I want those to be zero finicky, as poking around in them is way more of a pain in the ass.

[–] devfuuu@lemmy.world 2 points 3 hours ago* (last edited 2 hours ago)

Opensuse tumbleweed would likely be a good choice.

[–] kiri@ani.social 2 points 5 hours ago* (last edited 5 hours ago)
[–] Hamartiogonic@sopuli.xyz 3 points 4 hours ago* (last edited 4 hours ago) (1 children)

As a lazy admin of my own computer, I agree… for the most part. Running Debian allows you to be super lazy, whereas Arch will punish you for that. One update screwed up my GRUB because I didn’t bother reading the news. Totally my fault, learned my lesson.

This means that running Arch comes with some responsibilities that a super lazy Debian admin can simply ignore. Just read the announcements before updating and you’re good. Ignore them at your own peril.

It wasn’t a total disaster though. Just needed to fix my stupid mistake with chroot, and the system was up and running in about half an hour. Debian admins don’t end up with situations like that by being lazy. You would need to be actively trying to break your system to have to pay a price like this.

Other than that, my system has been running smoothly with hardly any interference on my part. The joy of a rolling release…

[–] victorz@lemmy.world 2 points 2 hours ago (1 children)

Yeah, I mean, if I were to admin a fleet of computers or something like that, I would definitely not run Arch on those. 😅

[–] Hamartiogonic@sopuli.xyz 1 points 1 hour ago

LOL. Same.

Every now and then I find a comment where someone who clearly knows what they’re doing is deploying an Arch server in a work setting. Feeling confident with that decision takes something I don’t have. Maybe it’s experience, knowledge or something.

[–] CallMeAl@piefed.zip 1 points 5 hours ago (1 children)

Why do people say to keep Arch healthy you must follow the mailing list for needed manual changes for some upgrades? It that a misconception?

[–] victorz@lemmy.world 4 points 4 hours ago (1 children)

That's not a misconception, but with a slight modification. Stick around:

First of all, you can decide to do an upgrade at your own leisure. There's no need to run it 10 times a day as some memes will have you believe. I upgrade probably once a week, but I feel like that's a lot. If nothing is broken, no need to upgrade. Of course, I want to keep up with security updates and browser updates, so when those happen, I tend to upgrade too. So probably once every six weeks should be enough (keep up with the browser schedule).

Anyway, the modification I mentioned is that you don't need to follow anything. The only thing you should to do is to check archlinux.org for any news items before you upgrade. It's extremely rare that there are manual actions needed, and when there are, it's even more seldom for a package that I personally have installed. I think maybe once or twice in a decade I've had to actually do anything, and it's been minor. It always has the exact command or tells you exactly what to do. They never leave you on your own with these things.

A lot less maintenance than Windows back when I was running that, I'll tell you that much.

[–] CallMeAl@piefed.zip 2 points 3 hours ago (1 children)

Thanks for the response and the clarification.

I haven't run Windows in 25 years and I no plans to. I've actually been using linux for my desktop all that time, including gentoo for several years. Personally, I think people should use whatever os they like and the more choices the better!

[–] victorz@lemmy.world 1 points 2 hours ago (1 children)

Definitely, fully agree. Gentoo I can imagine is more maintenance than Arch, even. At least a lot more waiting around. 😅 But maybe that's a misconception, too!

But yeah, definitely use whatever you like. I just want to clear up the misconception that Arch is heavy on maintenance. It most definitely is not, unless you want it to be.

[–] CallMeAl@piefed.zip 1 points 1 hour ago

I originally switched to Gentoo when I got my first AMD64 workstation. Gentoo was the only distro with full support and optimization for a little while.

a lot more waiting around

For a big build I would kick it off at bed time :)

[–] lime@feddit.nu 10 points 5 hours ago

i've been customizing linux for 15 years. it's nice to just sit down with something that works.

[–] Mwa@thelemmy.club 2 points 4 hours ago* (last edited 4 hours ago)

Got tired of consistently running into problems trying to set it up(e.g,, messing up the UUID)

[–] squirrel@cake.kobel.fyi 15 points 7 hours ago

I tried pure Arch. Installed it and then realized I have to set up everything myself and lost all motivation. Didn't know about archinstall at that time. Found CachyOS and stuck with it. It runs perfectly and I see no reason to switch.

[–] asudox@lemmy.asudox.dev 3 points 4 hours ago

While not answering the question, the first "user friendly" arch based distro I tried out was endeavour and I remember going back to vanilla arch after realizing how bloaty it was.

[–] tyler@programming.dev 12 points 6 hours ago (1 children)

I’ve spent far too much of my life configuring computers. I want to do as little configuring as possible. Also, I’d heard that Cachy had custom kernel changes that made pretty much any game run better.

Games run phenomenally, not sure why I’d go try anything else. (Bazzite, mint, zorin did not work with my setup)

[–] Seppo@sopuli.xyz 4 points 6 hours ago (1 children)

Same. I worked with Linux professionally for 15+ years but my main battle station runs Bazzite, and home server runs unraid. Pretty much as plug-and-play as you can get. Laptop however is on NixOS so that I can swap configs depending on usecase.

[–] SaneMartigan@lemmy.world 1 points 6 hours ago

FWIW I tried catchyOS as a comparison to Bazzite and I prefer bazzite.

[–] 0xKesh@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 5 hours ago

I've ran vanilla Arch multiple times in the past, and each time it was for the 'fun'of building out my system, this was mainly back when I was a uni student.

These days however, I just want something that works well for my use case.

[–] tofu@lemmy.nocturnal.garden 4 points 5 hours ago

I've been using bare Arch for a while but after five or so installs I couldn't be bothered anymore and realized that EndeavourOS is basically doing exactly what I'm looking for.

So it's mostly the installer.

[–] myrmidex@belgae.social 7 points 7 hours ago* (last edited 7 hours ago) (1 children)

I used EndeavourOS for a long time. I liked it mainly for the Sway config making it all so nice out of the box. And of course the easy install.

[–] victorz@lemmy.world 4 points 6 hours ago (1 children)

What differences are there between Endeavour's sway config and sway's own default config?

[–] LostWanderer@fedia.io 5 points 6 hours ago (1 children)

I do it because if I can save myself some busywork and have a ready to go and maintain system...From after an install, I much prefer that. I don't see the point of installing purely vanilla Arch. There are use cases where this would make sense, but I honestly cannot be arsed. Garuda Linux takes the pain in my arse out of Arch, makes it fun to use. Easy to keep up with .pacdiffs, merging when appropriate (or skipping pointless mergers because they build the damn distro, so they stop pointless busywork from bothering users).

I get access to the latest software and kernels, smooth performance, and all I have to do is pay attention to breaking changes (implement the fix post update) in exchange. It's a pretty damn fine deal. The safety nets that Garuda Linux provides over traditional Arch (which is historically minimal by design) is a better deal in my opinion. However, if I had the drive; I feel like I am beginning to understand the workflow enough to potentially reproduce something similar (not one to one) on a vanilla Arch install.

Now don't get me wrong, the archinstall script is pretty cool, the only bane about it is needing to be connected to the internet. Connecting via a command, rough AF. I honestly might've misspelled that command and not noticed during a frantic moment (it was a floptina moment for me, so, Arch isn't to blame). Garuda Linux lowered the barrier, just enough that I got my foot in and got really comfortable with manual interventions and the like. But they also kept it high enough to isolate me from the AUR, but let me have their nice properly managed ChaoticAUR instead.

[–] Junkers_Klunker@feddit.dk 2 points 4 hours ago* (last edited 4 hours ago)

Connecting via a command, rough AF

Even more so if you’re using a non-US qwerty keyboard were many of the special symbols are swapped. Christ I spent a lot of time figuring where everything was.

[–] alakey@piefed.social 2 points 5 hours ago

Not a masochist and Arch is the only distro I'm aware of that comes close to Windows in terms of package availability (i.e. if it exists and is either open source or prebuilt I can get it on Arch). Cachy specifically for their optimized custom kernels, but lately I've been really wishing they had a bigger team and were sponsored, as some packages can lag behind for quite some time. Same for packages in the Arch repo.

[–] lung@lemmy.world 0 points 6 hours ago (1 children)

Last time I installed Arch I just told Codex to build an ISO with my favorite stuff, flashed the physical media, and started using it. Now that's a one step setup

[–] wltr@discuss.tchncs.de 1 points 5 hours ago

Do you have it detailed somewhere? A blog or something. Would be interesting to see what it looks like.