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I personally do, he actually risked his life to release information about the government spying on people. And there are for sure more advanced ways now. Even your phone is listening.

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[–] RockBottom@feddit.org 4 points 22 minutes ago

Yes. If there ever was one.

[–] ButtermilkBiscuit@feddit.nl 9 points 1 hour ago* (last edited 1 hour ago)

Without a doubt I think he was a hero. We should build a statue to him at the NSA or Dell HQ - maybe both.

[–] TrickDacy@lemmy.world 1 points 5 minutes ago

He's a hero. Doesn't matter that it ended up being largely ignored by the public. He was motivated by doing good and sacrificed himself for it. That's the definition of a hero. A former coworker said "who's Edward Snowden?" when he came up. From that moment on, I judged her a moron, and that turned out to be a correct judgement.

[–] MrSulu@lemmy.ml 1 points 7 minutes ago

Unreservdly YES.

[–] rossman@lemmy.zip 15 points 1 hour ago

mixed but yes. the govt made an example of him and from the popular standpoint he was serving the people. he also helped GDPR so thats factored in. currently the police state is still winning.

[–] HootinNHollerin@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 47 minutes ago

Absolutely. And those who say otherwise are the real criminals

[–] AlecSadler@lemmy.dbzer0.com 5 points 57 minutes ago (1 children)

I got in trouble in school for putting free Kevin stuff on my binders, backpack, etc

Hero? From the stance of exposing things that should have been public knowledge, absolutely.

[–] jve@lemmy.world 1 points 39 minutes ago (1 children)
[–] AlecSadler@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 21 minutes ago (1 children)

Yeah sorry Kevin Mitnick. Always supported this type of stuff... I guess I was missing the bridge there.

[–] rethnor@lemmy.zip 1 points 10 minutes ago

Kevin Mitnick?

[–] yenahmik@lemmy.world 34 points 2 hours ago

I think he blew up his life to reveal something the general public probably should be aware of, but ultimately didn't care about.

Idk if it was heroic, but it certainly was interesting how he released the info slowly to get catch the government in numerous lies attempting to downplay the truth of the matter. One of the Obama administration's biggest blights.

[–] wagesj45@fedia.io 2 points 1 hour ago

Just stopping by to say hi to the glowies monitoring this thread. 👋

Hmm... Interesting essay question. I think for the year it happened, yes-ish. Had it been today, it would have been like whatevs, because everyone is giving away their privacy in exchange for some functionally. And so, as I think back on it, it didn't really mattered. I think this could've been debated either way.

[–] prettybunnys@piefed.social 12 points 3 hours ago (2 children)

What he revealed was worthwhile.

How he did it was fucked.

What he’s done since …. Hasn’t helped his image.

[–] jve@lemmy.world 8 points 38 minutes ago

Vague posting master class.

[–] AlecSadler@lemmy.dbzer0.com 6 points 56 minutes ago

Wait what has he done since?

[–] 58008@lemmy.world 11 points 3 hours ago (1 children)

I think what he did was heroic. I don't know for sure that his motives were pure, like I can't see into his soul, or know what his relationship with Russia was before doing it, but all in all I think what he revealed had to be revealed. The NSA were untethered by any sort of oversight or accountability to the public, and they proved beyond any doubt just how completely and totally an agency loses it's fucking mind when no one's watching. I doubt anything changed in that regard - they've probably just strafed into a different shadowy part of the landscape and are continuing with new/improved tools - but it at least taught us all that, yes, the government really is both capable and motivated to spy on every bowel movement and armpit sniff you perform, whether or not you're a suspect in a crime. The mere affirmation that this sort of thing really goes on is worth having.

[–] bamboo@lemmy.blahaj.zone 10 points 2 hours ago

FWIW, his passport was revoked while on a layover in Russia from Hong Kong to Cuba for an intended final destination of Ecuador. This is what caused him to seek asylum in Russia because that was his only option. His involvement with wikileaks during this time is suspicious knowing what we know now, but it seems to me he either got stuck in Russia because of the US or because of Wikileaks, and he didn't knowingly have a relationship with Russia before getting stuck there.

[–] EveryMuffinIsNowEncrypted@lemmy.blahaj.zone 50 points 5 hours ago* (last edited 5 hours ago)

Damn right he is. He risked his safety and his life (and still does) to make sure we all know more about how the feds are spying on their own citizens.

He's a true hero of the American People, that one, make no mistake.

[–] corbindallas@fedinsfw.app 20 points 4 hours ago

Without reservation, yes.

[–] tristan@tarte.nuage-libre.fr 12 points 3 hours ago

Selfless and morally guided actions. He’s the dictionary definition of a hero.

[–] Maeve@kbin.earth 31 points 4 hours ago

Yes, and I wish him well. Be careful, if you're thinking of anything.

[–] CapuccinoCoretto@lemmy.world 58 points 5 hours ago

Yes. Unequivocally.

[–] nutbutter@discuss.tchncs.de 20 points 4 hours ago (1 children)

Permanent Record was the first book I ever read (apart from the ones in school and college), and I loved it. His story does inspire me.

In my eyes, he is!

[–] Anonymous_Leaker@lemmy.world 11 points 4 hours ago (2 children)

The Enemy Of The State movie from 1998 really woke me up in the past. You should watch it immediately.

[–] tacosanonymous@mander.xyz 6 points 3 hours ago (4 children)

I remember seeing that film and thinking, “they wish they could do this.” They’ve tried pretty hard and somehow been more sinister about it.

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[–] halcyoncmdr@piefed.social 5 points 3 hours ago (1 children)

As terrible as much of that movie is... It is a great movie overall and a recommended watch.

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[–] FriendOfDeSoto@startrek.website 23 points 5 hours ago (5 children)

Hero isn't a title for life. His willingness to fuck his own life up to reveal NSA secrets to the world was heroic. Him staying in Russia with everything they've done more recently is decidedly less so.

We want to judge him by absolute categories like morals and convictions. And that's unfair because nobody is that pristinely moral all the time. I get that after his 007-like escape to Hong Kong, he would choose the easier way out now. If that means tacitly approving of Russia's illegal attack on their neighbor then so be it. I think his morals compelled him to release the surveillance secret to the world. And the experience has sufficiently dulled any moral urges. Combine that with a limited list of choices of where else to go. A true superhuman hero would not want to stay where he once sought asylum if that country was itself responsible for hundreds of thousands of people seeking asylum elsewhere. As I said, hero isn't a title for life.

[–] Serinus@lemmy.world 1 points 40 seconds ago

As long as he doesn't do anything wrong in Russia, I'm not going to give him shit for taking refuge.

[–] FaceDeer@fedia.io 23 points 4 hours ago

As I recall he was heading somewhere else, but the US revoked his passport while he happened to be catching a connecting flight in Russia and so he ended up taking refuge there instead.

I think that him staying in Russia is more because that if he get out he will be arrested and deported. The guy reveal an overreaching conspiracy by the US to spy on their allies and the allies choose the side of the US

[–] K1nsey6@lemmy.world 14 points 4 hours ago (2 children)

He stayed in Russia because he is safe from US extradition. If the US was able to extradite him, they would assassinate him.

[–] PapaStevesy@lemmy.world 2 points 1 hour ago

If the US was able to extradite him, they wouldn't need to assassinate him. From the government pov, assassinations are for people you can't lock away forever.

[–] adespoton@lemmy.ca 6 points 3 hours ago

They wouldn’t assassinate him today. They’d just throw him in jail for life.

After all, they’re now doing in the open what he caught them doing in secret, and there have been no repercussions. So that means they no longer have a reason to shut him up, and they definitely don’t want to martyr him.

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