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Without a doubt I think he was a hero. We should build a statue to him at the NSA or Dell HQ - maybe both.
He's a hero. Doesn't matter that it ended up being largely ignored by the public. He was motivated by doing good and sacrificed himself for it. That's the definition of a hero. A former coworker said "who's Edward Snowden?" when he came up. From that moment on, I judged her a moron, and that turned out to be a correct judgement.
Unreservdly YES.
mixed but yes. the govt made an example of him and from the popular standpoint he was serving the people. he also helped GDPR so thats factored in. currently the police state is still winning.
Absolutely. And those who say otherwise are the real criminals
I got in trouble in school for putting free Kevin stuff on my binders, backpack, etc
Hero? From the stance of exposing things that should have been public knowledge, absolutely.
Kevin?
Yeah sorry Kevin Mitnick. Always supported this type of stuff... I guess I was missing the bridge there.
Kevin Mitnick?
I think he blew up his life to reveal something the general public probably should be aware of, but ultimately didn't care about.
Idk if it was heroic, but it certainly was interesting how he released the info slowly to get catch the government in numerous lies attempting to downplay the truth of the matter. One of the Obama administration's biggest blights.
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Hmm... Interesting essay question. I think for the year it happened, yes-ish. Had it been today, it would have been like whatevs, because everyone is giving away their privacy in exchange for some functionally. And so, as I think back on it, it didn't really mattered. I think this could've been debated either way.
What he revealed was worthwhile.
How he did it was fucked.
What he’s done since …. Hasn’t helped his image.
Vague posting master class.
Wait what has he done since?
I think what he did was heroic. I don't know for sure that his motives were pure, like I can't see into his soul, or know what his relationship with Russia was before doing it, but all in all I think what he revealed had to be revealed. The NSA were untethered by any sort of oversight or accountability to the public, and they proved beyond any doubt just how completely and totally an agency loses it's fucking mind when no one's watching. I doubt anything changed in that regard - they've probably just strafed into a different shadowy part of the landscape and are continuing with new/improved tools - but it at least taught us all that, yes, the government really is both capable and motivated to spy on every bowel movement and armpit sniff you perform, whether or not you're a suspect in a crime. The mere affirmation that this sort of thing really goes on is worth having.
FWIW, his passport was revoked while on a layover in Russia from Hong Kong to Cuba for an intended final destination of Ecuador. This is what caused him to seek asylum in Russia because that was his only option. His involvement with wikileaks during this time is suspicious knowing what we know now, but it seems to me he either got stuck in Russia because of the US or because of Wikileaks, and he didn't knowingly have a relationship with Russia before getting stuck there.
Damn right he is. He risked his safety and his life (and still does) to make sure we all know more about how the feds are spying on their own citizens.
He's a true hero of the American People, that one, make no mistake.
Without reservation, yes.
Selfless and morally guided actions. He’s the dictionary definition of a hero.
Yes, and I wish him well. Be careful, if you're thinking of anything.
Yes. Unequivocally.
Permanent Record was the first book I ever read (apart from the ones in school and college), and I loved it. His story does inspire me.
In my eyes, he is!
The Enemy Of The State movie from 1998 really woke me up in the past. You should watch it immediately.
I remember seeing that film and thinking, “they wish they could do this.” They’ve tried pretty hard and somehow been more sinister about it.
As terrible as much of that movie is... It is a great movie overall and a recommended watch.
Hero isn't a title for life. His willingness to fuck his own life up to reveal NSA secrets to the world was heroic. Him staying in Russia with everything they've done more recently is decidedly less so.
We want to judge him by absolute categories like morals and convictions. And that's unfair because nobody is that pristinely moral all the time. I get that after his 007-like escape to Hong Kong, he would choose the easier way out now. If that means tacitly approving of Russia's illegal attack on their neighbor then so be it. I think his morals compelled him to release the surveillance secret to the world. And the experience has sufficiently dulled any moral urges. Combine that with a limited list of choices of where else to go. A true superhuman hero would not want to stay where he once sought asylum if that country was itself responsible for hundreds of thousands of people seeking asylum elsewhere. As I said, hero isn't a title for life.
As long as he doesn't do anything wrong in Russia, I'm not going to give him shit for taking refuge.
As I recall he was heading somewhere else, but the US revoked his passport while he happened to be catching a connecting flight in Russia and so he ended up taking refuge there instead.
I think that him staying in Russia is more because that if he get out he will be arrested and deported. The guy reveal an overreaching conspiracy by the US to spy on their allies and the allies choose the side of the US
He stayed in Russia because he is safe from US extradition. If the US was able to extradite him, they would assassinate him.
If the US was able to extradite him, they wouldn't need to assassinate him. From the government pov, assassinations are for people you can't lock away forever.
They wouldn’t assassinate him today. They’d just throw him in jail for life.
After all, they’re now doing in the open what he caught them doing in secret, and there have been no repercussions. So that means they no longer have a reason to shut him up, and they definitely don’t want to martyr him.