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[–] db2@lemmy.world 65 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

The Pope is kind of Catholic too.

[–] bajabound@lemmy.world 10 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Is a bear Catholic? Does the Pope shit in the woods?

[–] dhork@lemmy.world 5 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

What is the Pope is a Bears fan?

[–] anomnom@sh.itjust.works 2 points 2 weeks ago

I think it’s officially “da pope” now.

[–] echodot@feddit.uk 5 points 2 weeks ago

Although with some of them, you do have to wonder

[–] brucethemoose@lemmy.world 43 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (1 children)

More GPUs =/= better AI.

More data =/= better AI.

More tech bro “superstars” =/= better AI

This is what people like Musk and Zuckerberg don’t seem to understand.

Training scales very poorly past a certain cluster size, especially if you go for new architectures to actually pursue improvements, hence reports of GPUs being tasked with busywork just to meet utilization quotes. Increasing data size and training scale hits diminishing returns, quick, or even regresses models because the bulk data is shit and the model is too inefficient. A prime example: Llama 4. “Superstar” AI engineers are better and Tweeting and sycophantic gaslighting than coding something interesting.

In other words, I’d argue there’s a much smaller “sweet spot” for pure LLMs that these billionaires are way, way past. And no one is telling them no because they’re too rich to hear it. It’s all going to collapse on itself because scaling like that just does not work.

[–] Flower@sh.itjust.works 14 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

This is what people like Musk and Zuckerberg don’t seem to understand.

They know, but can't admit it. Pretend and keep the stock price going up makes them money, so for them it's still working. Meanwhile they hope for a breakthrough, bail-outs or a new hype train to jump on.

[–] brucethemoose@lemmy.world 20 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

No, they don't.

They're surrounded by yes men. And from everything I hear them say, they don't understand the first thing about how LLMs actually work.

[–] madcaesar@lemmy.world 8 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

AI is so weird, it absolutely is useful and has uses, but it absolutely is NOT what these billionaires want it to be.

And even IF IT COULD BE all they claim, it would literarily cause an economic collapse.

The truth is that AI is a tool that's useful, but anyone in those companies trying to dampen things will be immediately moved to the side in favor of a guy saying, dude we can go to the moon with this trust me!

So yea... I don't know how we get out of this... It's very similar to the dot-com bubble. Internet was/is important and transformative but it wasn't what everyone was claiming... So the crash came.

[–] brucethemoose@lemmy.world 6 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

They don't even need to dampen, just redirect. Pay engineers to make them specialized tools, don't waste so much money on GPUs, and give part of the compute to the community to tinker with, instead of hoarding it and doing squat.

[–] tirateimas@lemmy.pt 14 points 2 weeks ago

no shit sherlock

[–] just_another_person@lemmy.world 12 points 2 weeks ago

Wow, REEEEEEAAAALLLLLY, Yann? So fucking astute! We gotta get this guy to Vegas, IMMEDIATELY.

[–] rf_@lemmy.world 10 points 2 weeks ago

Grok is this true?

[–] scarabic@lemmy.world 7 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

Musk faces challenges attracting engineers

No shit. I have no idea who still works at Xitter. I think they must have whittled it down to workaholic Nazi pigs who personally share in Elon’s psychopathy. Because no self respecting tech workers would put up with his bullshit when there’s a whole industry they could go work in.

SpaceX is different. Aerospace is a narrower field and SpaceX is truly at the forefront of it. For a time, Tesla was also at the forefront of its field, doing things that no one else was.

But Xitter and xAI or whatever the fuck it’s called… they have zero advantages with which to attract engineering talent. Elon doesn’t know what the fuck he’s doing when it comes to software and never has. He tries to push tech workers around the same way, he’s going to find they can get other jobs at superior organizations and likely for more money.

[–] anon_8675309@lemmy.world 6 points 2 weeks ago

Says the person who took a billion to make the next thing after the reset.

[–] eleijeep@piefed.social 6 points 2 weeks ago (3 children)

Great, but why would I respect the opinion of someone who works at Meta?

[–] Windex007@lemmy.world 28 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

You shouldn't respect anyone's opinion: you hear the opinion and judge the contents on it's own merit. Everyone you respect will have the odd terrible take, and people you loathe will periodically have a banger thought.

A ton of Dawkins fan boys are huffing copium since the man decided Claude is conscious (and for some incelly reason a woman). A lot of MAGA asshats are trying to torch data centers.

If you offload your own critical evaluation of ideas merely to an adjudication of the speaker... honestly I hear it no differently than "because chatGPT said".

This is just the laziest ad homium. Tell me, what do you think about the content? I am genuinely curious, and that analysis is 1000x more valuable.

[–] FauxLiving@lemmy.world 3 points 2 weeks ago

I respect this opinion

[–] Fisherswamp@programming.dev 7 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)
[–] mannycalavera@feddit.uk 6 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Yeah but the association is enough for some people. He probably doesn't even use Arch Linux.

[–] QuandaleDingle@lemmy.world 1 points 2 weeks ago

...I think people who use Linux are the exception???

[–] oyo@lemmy.zip 4 points 2 weeks ago

Ok but why is the thumbnail a picture of Garrison Keillor?

[–] semperverus@lemmy.world 3 points 2 weeks ago

Dot com 2.0 wooooo

[–] tigermountain@lemmy.world 3 points 2 weeks ago

Since Elon Musk is a super genius who sleeps on the floors of his factories couldn't he just run xAI himself without any staff?

[–] northernlights@lemmy.today 2 points 2 weeks ago

We can only hope

[–] tomatolung@lemmy.world 1 points 2 weeks ago

Posting Part 1 and Part 2 which breakdown LeCun's JEPA model and more.

[–] boldfalcon6912@lemmy.1095.me -1 points 2 weeks ago

@sanitation 乐观点看,LeCun 说的“failure”可能更多是指 xAI 当前的商业化进度,而不是技术本身。比如 Grok-1 的开源就证明了模型能力还在——只是产品化的 timing 和路径可能跟 OpenAI 不同。你觉得这种“技术 vs 商业”的二分法在 AI 创业里是否普遍存在?我这边观察到不少团队在开源模型上反而活得更滋润,我们整理了几个案例对比 如果对你有参考价值的话。

[–] DeathsEmbrace@lemmy.world -3 points 2 weeks ago

Wow the only technology that is designed to lie to you is a failure? Pattern recognition means it can recognize wrong patterns.

[–] dan1101@lemmy.world -4 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

It needs to cook a lot longer. Better and more efficient algorithms. Fix the hallucinating, implement quality control.

[–] QueenMidna@lemmy.ca 18 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

They fundamentally cannot fix hallucinations in LLMs

[–] FauxLiving@lemmy.world 8 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Why don't they just add 'don't make mistakes' to the system prompt, are they stupid?

[–] QueenMidna@lemmy.ca 4 points 2 weeks ago

Shit! Why didn't I think of that?