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[–] JustARegularNerd@lemmy.world 29 points 1 day ago

When XavDub contacted the German car maker, the company responded that GrapheneOS “is not an official Volkswagen offering” and advised them to contact their OS provider instead.

This is the only official word from Volkswagen in the whole article. To me, this reads less as "We are blocking GrapheneOS users" and instead "GrapheneOS is not something we give any official support" which I think is a key distinction.

It's not clear what's different in the update that doesn't work with GrapheneOS, whether it's an API call that doesn't work or if they've implemented the Play Integrity API - but I think this article is a bit sensationalist and everyone's reacted only to the headline.

[–] Eric_Pollock@lemmy.dbzer0.com 122 points 1 day ago (9 children)

Hopefully this doesn't affect me

A 1990 Volkswagen Vanagon with a German flag livery

[–] badgermurphy@lemmy.world 9 points 1 day ago

It's glorious!

[–] mbp@slrpnk.net 5 points 1 day ago

Hell yeah, brother

[–] Meatwagon@lemmy.dbzer0.com 13 points 1 day ago

That's a wonderful creature.

[–] CADmonkey@lemmy.world 10 points 1 day ago
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[–] AstralPath@lemmy.ca 72 points 1 day ago (3 children)

Cars didn't need apps in the 1900's and they sure as hell don't need them now.

[–] badgermurphy@lemmy.world 7 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

But they force me to pay for parts I can't use without doing things I won't and agreeing to things I don't.

[–] rumba@lemmy.zip 5 points 1 day ago (1 children)

You don't need a computer to make a car. But you might need most of one to meet fuel economy and safety standards.

[–] Dozzi92@lemmy.world 12 points 1 day ago

Yeah, good people had good ideas and created the computer link that allows your catalytic converter to function properly. As with all good things, some shithead ruined it and put Subaru's remote start behind a paid app. Shit people ruining good things, tale as old as time.

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[–] Triumph@fedia.io 205 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Class action for unilaterally modifying the agreement about feature access after the fact and to the detriment of the consumer.

[–] 4am@lemmy.zip 56 points 1 day ago (1 children)

There’s about 1000 companies to sue for this already

[–] ripcord@lemmy.world 19 points 1 day ago (2 children)
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[–] newton@feddit.online 35 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Ty ,for info , next car will be no VW.

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[–] anon_8675309@lemmy.world 67 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Change it from they block GOS to they spy on you. Get it in front of as many people as possible. If they get huge negative press they’re more likely to change.

[–] ayyy@sh.itjust.works 17 points 1 day ago

They literally murdered millions and were in the press about it. I think they don’t care about headlines anymore.

[–] frongt@lemmy.zip 78 points 1 day ago (3 children)

This is highly misleading. Hopefully there's a link in the article to the original report on the GrapheneOS forums, where they talk about the app update breaking it on multiple platforms, not just GrapheneOS. It does not appear to be a block.

[–] ExcessShiv@lemmy.dbzer0.com 72 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

It's probably just using googles play integrity, that tends to break apps in pretty much in everything that isn't stock manufacturer android.

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[–] rumba@lemmy.zip 7 points 1 day ago

All in all, it's just another brick in the VibeCoded Wall...

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[–] pimat@feddit.org 125 points 1 day ago (4 children)

How are all these governments and companies managing to enshitify everything? Yet, when it comes to real problems like world hunger, child poverty, and exploitation, no one even blinks an eye.

[–] snoons@piefed.ca 60 points 1 day ago

No one makes short term profit off of solving world hunger, so it doesn't get solved. 🙈

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[–] daggermoon@piefed.world 57 points 1 day ago (7 children)

Why does a car need an android app?

[–] dltk@lemmy.world 0 points 12 hours ago

I charge my EV using excess solar energy during the day. It's handy to be able to start and stop charging based on solar output. We also use the app to send map locations to the navigation system. Finally, while I'm privacy sensitive and having a GPS tracker exposing my location through an API I don't control is dodgy as hell, being able to confirm the vehicle location remotely has come in handy on occasion.

While some neck beards may prefer to live in the 80s, I enjoy using and benefit from modern technology. I just wish regulators would require companies to use open systems. Tech in general isn't' the problem. Proprietary tech is the problem.

[–] ExcessShiv@lemmy.dbzer0.com 30 points 1 day ago (1 children)

It doesn't need it, it will drive just fine without app connection, but it provides convenient remote access and control capabilities.

[–] daggermoon@piefed.world 44 points 1 day ago (5 children)

I'd prefer a car that's entirely analog. What a crazy dream.

[–] FatVegan@leminal.space 20 points 1 day ago (10 children)

My first car was a 1992 honda civic. As time went on and cars cot more modern, i yearned for a more modern car. Infotainment seemed like so much fun, all thr convenient knick knacks and gizmos.

Now, unironocally my dream car is my 1992 honda civic from back in the day

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[–] hansolo@lemmy.today 7 points 1 day ago

Why does car need to be an android app?

[–] dwemthy@lemmy.world 3 points 1 day ago

So you can buy a subscription for the soft locked features like remote start. And so they get you to agree to a location tracking EULA. Got a VW this year and the dealership pushed the app really hard, apparently they have to pay VW a fee if they don't hit a quota for sign ups.

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[–] Zenlix@lemmy.ml 85 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Just another shitty company.

[–] anon5621@lemmy.ml 74 points 1 day ago (5 children)

Holy crap I miss old times 2013 when nobody was even bothering and all bootloaders was unlocked by default no play integrity just do what u wanna do with ur own device

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[–] skvlp@lemmy.wtf 16 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Time to de-Volkswagen, then.

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[–] mazzilius_marsti@lemmy.world 15 points 1 day ago (4 children)

i want a car with zero touchscreen. Heck, even no reverse camera - older folks have been driving just fine for years with just the side and rear mirrors. 3 pedals.

[–] jj4211@lemmy.world 1 points 12 hours ago

I get the touchscreen thing, though I really don't mind a touchscreen so long as I have real hard controls for volume and heating/cooling. GPS without touchscreen is painful.

But the backup cameras, absolutely those need to be a thing. They have saved lives. People have arguably never been driving 'just fine', just getting closer to just fine. Backup cameras reduced child death from being backed over by 80%.

[–] WereCat@lemmy.world 20 points 1 day ago (2 children)

and no airbag, my granddad crashed 6 times and never needed one

[–] MaggiWuerze@feddit.org 11 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Also these newfangled seatbelts, they always ruffle my tie

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