Tech guy discovers enclosure.
this post was submitted on 23 Jun 2026
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I'm just waiting for some RTO'd workers to be told they're being mass laid off, and instead they just beat the manager to death. The irony of it only being possible because they were forced back into the office will be delicious.
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I've seen this argument in one form or another for years, and my response has never changed:
Either information on the internet is free for everyone, or it isn't.
You don't get to publish information for the public to access and then turn around and say that some people are allowed to use it while others are not, especially if the distinction is based on whether someone might make money from it.
You can't have it both ways. You can't claim information should be freely available and then try to restrict who can benefit from it.
Pick one. Either the information is free, or it isn't.
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Finally someone said it. I honestly was wondering why no one was complaining about this... I've worked on some open source myself, licensed it GPL, and never intended for it to be used as training data.
Doesn't the GPL cover shit like this? There should be mass lawsuits hitting any AI that used open source software and didn't just specifically use BSD projects or something.
If you train an LLM on GPL code, it should be illegal to sell that LLM and use it commercially without revealing ALL THE SOURCE you used and the source to regenerate that model.
If you train an LLM on GPL code, it should be illegal to sell that LLM and use it commercially without revealing ALL THE SOURCE you used and the source to regenerate that model.
Also if that LLM is used to generate code - that code must also be GPL.
I'd love to see lawsuits force Microsoft and Nvidia and OpenAI to open source everything they had AI touch π
Yeah I mean they train ai on commercially copyrighted stuff like books that they straight up pirate so if that doesnβt stop them the open source community certainly wonβt
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The worst part (maybe the second worst after all the slop poisoning the internet nowadays) is the proof that copyright law is only for us poors.
I download a copyrighted work and get a strongly worded letter from my ISP, or worse. They download all the copyrighted works; scrape the data from them; and charge for the ability to use said data to make derivative, non-transformative slop; and get fabulously wealthy from it.
I download a copyrighted work and get a strongly worded letter from my ISP
So stop downloading from public trackers. Get into private trackers.
I meant it more as a general thing - I should have said "we" instead.
They actually seem pretty chill about it here in New Zealand. My dad and I had one ISP notice in the early 2000s, but I've downloaded absolutely shitloads since and we haven't heard a peep.
Nowadays I tend to use Usenet anyway; the speed of even the healthiest torrents pales in comparison.
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itβs called a walled garden for a reason.
And the people charging admission are also hemorrhaging money.
Weird fucking timeline.
I think their hope is if they pull it off they won't need money anymore, because they'll have destroyed the last lever of power the working class still have: the ability to withhold their labour. LLMs are trying to turn labour into just another tool (that you rent).
Its not weird, but its wrong and should be illegal
If you did it for free, what boss is replacing you?
Why can't you just keep doing it?
I mean, they're saying you're replaceable, but that's just a front for layoffs. Executive leadership doesn't care about having a functioning organization. They can easily find a job somewhere else once they demonstrate short term profits, even if it's at the expense of the company's long-term health
nobody wants to work these days!
The only true answer to genai is to make all models created by skimming the commons, mandatory open weight and open sourced. If you try to buff copyrights to defeat genai, it's going to boomerang right back in your face
It's just normal capitalism.
anyone who starts sentence with "bro" can f-off
Something something capitalist something extracting wealth from other people's labour...
on Reddit it would be something like r/AccidentalAlienation