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[–] Tenderizer@aussie.zone 3 points 16 hours ago

I'll upgrade when Windows 12 comes out ... is what I would say but I've already switched to Linux.

[–] NGC2346@sh.itjust.works 17 points 1 day ago

This is for the ESU version, not the regular one. I think this should be mentionned in the title.

[–] mecen@lemmy.ca 8 points 1 day ago (1 children)

There is also aspect of hardware not having TPM 2. Which turns plenty of good hardware to junk if you stay with windows.

[–] lemongarlic@lemmy.world 2 points 23 hours ago (2 children)

Iirc there are some versions of windows 11 without the TPM check

[–] TBi@lemmy.world 3 points 22 hours ago

There is a way to force the install. I did it on two of my machines. I should have stayed on 10

[–] mecen@lemmy.ca 2 points 23 hours ago (1 children)
[–] one_knight_scripting@lemmy.world 1 points 19 hours ago

Windows 11 Enterprise LTSC...

In combination with massgravel.

[–] Graphiar@lemmy.zip 29 points 1 day ago (4 children)

Still using Windows 10, but after testing out Linux on the side last year I’ve come to the conclusion it’s ready. Other than anti-cheat being in the shitter once Win 10 is officially dropped for good by games I’m moving over to Arch.

[–] greatwhitebuffalo41@slrpnk.net 3 points 20 hours ago (1 children)

Windows decided to delete all my documents and files 2 weeks ago. Even though I removed them from one drive, windows put them all back in. So when their one drive failed. I lost everything. Like every icon on my desktop too. Thank god i had just backed up a couple weeks before so I didn't lose much.

I was so pissed though that I immediately installed Linux Mint. Haven't looked back.

[–] Graphiar@lemmy.zip 2 points 18 hours ago (2 children)

It’s all fun and games until you find that one specific thing you can’t live without that requires Windows lol. Hence why I typically have a low profile Windows 10 LTSC virtual machine set up on my Linux machines.

[–] greatwhitebuffalo41@slrpnk.net 1 points 14 hours ago

I'm sure I'll find something lol. Currently its still on that hard drive. But I pulled it out for now. I was angry and didn't wanna look at windows anymore but knew I'd probably need it again lol.

[–] cy888@lemmy.world 1 points 18 hours ago

Same but Windows 7.

It seems fastest, most stable windows was 2000 but lacked good 64bit support. Much defaulted to 32bit :(

[–] reksas@sopuli.xyz 9 points 1 day ago (2 children)

and with steam one can play even non-steam games that are "windows only" by adding non-steam game. Proton works for those too.

[–] Smoogs@lemmy.world 10 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

not for the ones with the stupider anti cheats

i gave up on R 6 long ago. but basically all other games are playable on linux. i become comfortable living by the moral code of 'if the game doesnt play on linux it doesnt exist'

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[–] greatwhitebuffalo41@slrpnk.net 2 points 20 hours ago

I've been playing The Sims 2 that way lol

[–] Comet79@lemmy.world 6 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Some anti-cheat software can be run through Steam e.g. Easy anti-cheat.

[–] Graphiar@lemmy.zip 8 points 1 day ago

I’m aware. Just not the majority of them. Either way doesn’t personally matter to me as I mostly play single player games, to which Proton is incredible with that.

[–] quadrant5835@lemmy.zip 2 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Linux only needs to hit a "small but not insignificant size market" for the large publishers to start supporting it. They won't support it if they lose money doing so, but if it continues to grow eventually they will lose money by not supporting it.

Steam machine should provide another bump, just like steam deck.

[–] brucethemoose@lemmy.world 2 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

And issue is it needs to be a specific platform.

From a game developer’s perspective (who isn’t a pro linux dev or anything), they can support a platform. They support Windows 10. Or Windows 11. They can support stock Ubuntu. They can support a SteamOS image.

They cannot specifically support your personalized Arch config.

Linux’s fragmentation has always been an issue in this regard, as they can’t legally support thousands of different possible system configurations.


HOWEVER,

I think supporting Proton + SteamOS would be very reasonable for a dev. That is a specific platform, its codebase and infrastructure can stay unified with the Windows version, and support for that would practically mean support in other Linux distros.

And SteamOS by itself is getting big.

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[–] tonytins@pawb.social 20 points 1 day ago (1 children)

It's like XP all over again.

[–] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 4 points 1 day ago

God's Perfect OS

[–] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 3 points 1 day ago
[–] auzy1@lemmy.world 10 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (7 children)

Sorry, but this sounds like its half bs.

It probably has less to do with "rejecting" or anything to do with RAM, and more likely to do with all the embedded systems running it, or lazy people who don't upgrade simply because they don't need to

I know lots of people running old versions of Mac OS, and it is because their hardware doesn't support newer, and it works fine for their usecase. They're not thinking about the hardware in any way.

In fact, in contrast to MacOS, Microsoft actually offers this extended support option, whereas Apple tells its users to get f'ed fairly quickly (yet another reason NOT to use MacOS / Apple. You pay a premium for hardware they often don't support for long). Also, Ubuntu offers 15 years now support for LTS (which is crazy).

I use Fedora btw.

[–] TBi@lemmy.world 1 points 21 hours ago

I also like fedora. It’s one of the few distro which has software update all centralised in one app.

I am trying cachyos in a VM and I couldn’t find a way to upgrade in GUI.

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[–] Loce@lemmy.world 23 points 1 day ago

Nah, I'm good. Switched to Linux, and there's no need for me to go back

[–] HexesofVexes@lemmy.world 15 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (3 children)

Honestly, Microsoft may be full of arseholes, but moves like this at least one sane human works for the company.

It takes balls to admit you fucked up , and this is one employee showing some balls.

[–] dev_null@lemmy.ml 26 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (4 children)

That's one way of seeing it. Another is "if we kick them out of 10 and they are not willing to go to 11, they will switch to Linux or go Mac, we'd rather have them on 10 than not at all"

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[–] SabinStargem@lemmy.today 10 points 1 day ago (3 children)

Just reposting something. Most of it probably applies to Windows 10 too.

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PSA, for people sticking to Windows:

You can get a reasonable level of privacy by installing Windows Enterprise via RUFUS, which also has options for removing restrictions during installation. Massgravel is used to activate your copy of Windows, the Github also having .ISOs for you to use with RUFUS.

ShutUp10 is a piece of software that goes a step further, allowing you to toggle off many bad things, uninstall Microsoft's AI, and gives a description of what you are tweaking does. The premium version also automatically applies your settings at all times, reverting Microsoft's constant tweaking of your settings.

RUFUS

Massgravel

ShutUp10

[–] DupaCycki@lemmy.world 8 points 1 day ago (6 children)

Some people really do say that Linux is too much hassle, but then go through a 30 step process just to have a slightly less bloated piece of spyware.

I mean, it's good that this option exists. I'm sure it'll be helpful for people who need Windows 10 for some obscure music software, that doesn't work well or at all in a virtual machine or through wine. That might really be Windows 10's singular last use case.

[–] RememberTheApollo_@lemmy.world 2 points 1 day ago (1 children)

You skip past the part where lots of software doesn’t work on linux, or there are tons of hoops to jump through to get it to work, and once it’s working it can be broken by an update or upgrade. And no, not everything everyone uses has a 1:1 Linux equivalent.

What works on linux works great. No complaints there.

[–] DupaCycki@lemmy.world 1 points 22 hours ago

Absolutely. That's what I meant by the music software. From what I've seen it's the most common to have older versions that a lot of people use, that don't work on newer OSes.

Still, a basic DE with multimedia apps, a web browser, an office suite, an IDE, and games cover something like 99.3% of users (arbitrary number).

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[–] wuffah@lemmy.world 227 points 2 days ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (46 children)

If you’re too lazy to switch to Linux like me, Windows 10 Enterprise IoT LTSC is supported until 2032 and free to download and permanently license.

[–] toddestan@lemmy.world 214 points 2 days ago (40 children)

As someone who is lazy, I find running Linux to be less work than fighting with Windows.

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