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[–] Hikermick@lemmy.world 2 points 17 hours ago (1 children)

To prepare for world collapse learn to at people. There's plenty of them

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[–] ToiletFlushShowerScream@piefed.world 28 points 1 day ago (3 children)

Ouch. This hits home as for the last 3 yrs my veg garden has cost me as much to sow as it would have if I had just bought the damn handful of veggies from the store. Might replace it with a koi pond because I hear meditation takes your mind off of hunger pangs.

[–] VitoRobles@lemmy.today 16 points 1 day ago (1 children)

It took me weeks to finally grow like 4 strawberries. Was it worth it? No. Was it satisfying? Also no.

[–] TubularTittyFrog@lemmy.world 8 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

sucks. my strawberries i started years ago are pretty dope. but the harvest is inconsistent every year, due to weather. some years I get a lot, some years I get virtually none.

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[–] BarneyPiccolo@lemmy.today 13 points 1 day ago (2 children)

What you will have is the knowledge to grow food, which you scale up to feed yourself and can others for much longer. That is an extremely valuable skill.

Those four tomatoes will feed you, but only after you have harvested all the seeds, which will grow dozens of plants next season, and feed hundreds of people, and yield thousand sof seeds for an even larger crop next year.

Surviving through the first growing season is the trick.

[–] Markus29@lemmy.today 4 points 23 hours ago

Only if you grow heirloom tomatoes though. Modern tomatoes are all F1 hybrids so the offspring will be shit probably.

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[–] makeshift0546@lemmy.today 13 points 1 day ago

I grow suplimental stuff.i do supplemental stuff because feeding yourself at home is basically a full time job. Herbs, strawberry, peppers, various lettuce. Things that enhance my meals with fresh foods.

Trying to sustain yourself is a good errand. Your time is better spent elsewhere.

[–] HugeNerd@lemmy.ca 5 points 23 hours ago (1 children)

Yeah good luck outsmarting the squirrels on the tomatoes...

[–] GreenKnight23@lemmy.world 2 points 19 hours ago

build a cage. if you leave a small flap on top it doubles as a trap and you can have "free" protein.

[–] Barley_Man@sopuli.xyz 10 points 1 day ago (7 children)

It doesn't take much land to be self sufficient in vegetables if you are willing to limit your vegetable choices to your climate and to preserve them. However vegetables are the by far easiest part of being self sufficient. Getting your carbs and your proteins is far harder. Say you eat around 300g of grain per day. Then you would need about 219 square meters of grain if you have a typical organic yield. Replace your carbs with potato and maybe you can reduce that by 50%, but then you run into the risk of potato harvest failing, which they often do in organic systems. For proteins you would either have to have animals plus area to grow their feed, or grow a huge area on par with the grains to get enough shelling beans to meet your protein needs. But vegetables? Just a dozen or two square meters should be enough.

Assuming you’re able to produce enough for the off season and have a method to store said food.

It’s called “subsistence farming” and is a crapload of work.

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[–] Saapas@piefed.zip 10 points 1 day ago (7 children)

I mean it's a hobby. It's not cheaper or more efficient compared to large scale farming

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[–] TubularTittyFrog@lemmy.world 8 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (3 children)

I'm so sick of dummies thinking they are going to survive the collapse of society or prevent it buy planting a vegetable garden.

And yet I see someone posting their anxiety cope on here once a week, at least. Asking for advice how to become a homesteader on their 1/4 acre lot in a city/suburb. They write a 1000 word essay on the topic, asking of r 'advice' how to learn a lifetime of veggie growing experience into a few sentences so that they can be coming 'self sufficient'.

Grow plants if you want, for fun. But stop with the prepper bullshit. Stop being an paranoid egotistical idiot. If society collapses, you are fucked and there is shit you can do about it. You are not the protagonist of a apocalyptic movie, sorry to inform you. You are an extra whose only purpose in the story is to die or already be dead in the background of the shot.

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[–] deacon@lemmy.world 7 points 1 day ago (2 children)

I’ve got two of those survival food buckets from Costco, so that’s about how long I will last after the apocalypse, before I start selling myself to stronger people who will protect me.

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