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Like the title says, my partner's laptop was still running Windows 10 and they got infected with a backdoor malware. We'll need to reset her computer. It's an Asus Tuf Gaming A15.

She's been using Windows 10 for as long as she could but support is running out. At her work the computers are on Windows 11 and she hates it. Plus she's fervently anti-AI and wants none of that forced Copilot bullshit and privacy eroding features of Windows 11. She's seen me use it for over a year now and I also installed it on our old OG 1st gen MS Surface Pro table and she sees how well it's going. So now she wants Linux on her laptop.

After careful consideration and comparisons, I've decided to go with Zorin OS. I thought of Linux Mint, but it just looks so dated. There are inconistencies in the looks and I feel it lacks some features that I found that Zorin OS has. (It's essentially Gnome with QoL extras.) My only concern is that Zorin has Snaps out of the box but I don't think that's a concern for her. I'll install it on a BTRFS partition with automatic snapshots and grub-btrfs to recover from snapshots. And I'll schedule monthly backups of her files through rsync, or whatever the built-in backup tool does, onto an external drive.

I've tried Zorin on a VM and it was already outstanding. On the live USB session it was able to detect her NVidia card and recommend either the nouveau or NVidia proprietary driver. Everything worked out of the box. So I'm fairly confident everything will work well. One concern I have is she uses her personal laptop for work, and needs to connect to her work's Microsoft account. I see there's an accounts section in the settings where this can be set up, but I've never used it, so that'll be a first. Her work also requires Cisco AnyConnect VPN client. There is a Linux client, but you need a Cisco account to download it, and her work IT department does not support Linux, so I don't know if she'll be able to get it. One of the IT people has Linux on his machine and was able to set it up so maybe we'll rely on him for that part. She'll also need MS Office which uses a work license. I wonder how that will work on Bottles. We can try with Libre Office but I know the spacing and fonts get all wonky when you open a MS Word document or a Powerpoint presentation. Every other app she uses is open source apps like Gimp, Inkscape, Audacity, etc. And she doesn't game much, but I know this will work just fine. And the Gnome-Network-Displays will allow her to cast her screen onto our NVidia Shield device for watching movies.

Is there anything else I should be concerned about? Maybe hardware wise? Or anything to so with Snaps that could cause issues?

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[–] Marija@programming.dev 2 points 8 hours ago

Linux fits Spyfree values nicely.

[–] sbeak@sopuli.xyz 9 points 16 hours ago (4 children)

As somebody who converted to Linux about a yearish ago, I would like to provide some feedback.

Right now, your best options are: Mint (latest version of Cinnamon looks pretty modern in my opinion, if you haven't looked at it for too long), Fedora (Workstation for GNOME, KDE for Plasma), and maybe one of the -buntus depending on how recent the hardware is. For a first-timer, I would avoid the atomic distros like Bazzite, as they will work fine until there's a weird issue that is annoying to troubleshoot. It's very good if you already have Linux installed and are e.g. installing it on a handheld or HTPC but not for a first-timer.

I would let her try in a LiveUSB with GNOME, Cinnamon, and KDE Plasma to see what interface she likes best (screenshots aren't enough, the interfaces are different enough between them). Use VenToy for this I think, between Mint, Fedora Workstation, and Fedora KDE. Once that is decided, go with one of them.

Tip as somebody who first installed Fedora: make sure to enable proprietary drivers on first boot if you want access to Nvidia drivers + Steam! It's very important, as otherwise you need to manuakky configure those repositories. I don't believe this is an issue on Mint though, it's mostly a Fedora thing.

As for Office, I mostly get around with LibreOffice, but if that doesn't work, you can try OnlyOffice (but the company is Russian and a little shady, licensing issues, look into it), the web version of MS Office (ew, horrible), Windows in a VM, or dual-booting Windows (quite difficult to set up since MS does not play nice).

[–] Vittelius@feddit.org 1 points 8 hours ago

There's also SoftMaker Office

It's not open source and it costs money, but it's European (German) and it has really good MS office compatibility

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[–] mereo@piefed.ca 46 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (2 children)

One concern I have is she uses her personal laptop for work.

I will never agree to use my personal laptop for work. When I finish work, I hide my work laptop under the sofa so that I don't think about it. I need to physically separate work and my personal life.

If, for any reason, she cannot get a work laptop, I would not recommend installing a Linux distro because her livelihood depends on it.

[–] artyom@piefed.social 31 points 22 hours ago (2 children)

My work tried to make me use my personal GrapheneOS phone for work. Unfortunately some things did not work. When they tried to fix it I said "look, your stuff doesn't work on my phone, if you want me to have a specific phone with specific software, you can send me one, but this one is mine" and so they did.

Although in this day and age I think it's plausible to say "I don't own a computer".

[–] toynbee@piefed.social 3 points 8 hours ago

My work wanted me to use my phone (which, like yours, is Graphene) to login to the messenger they use. I briefly tried; it worked, but mandated enabling MDM. I did consider it, but while researching how much control it would grant if constrained to a work profile, I discovered it's not currently supported in Graphene. So I just deleted the login and work profile and didn't try to login any further.

I have an old, unused phone that's still Android, so if they ever insist (and won't provide me with a device), I'll probably just set it up on that phone and use my actual phone as a hotspot ... But that seems pretty ridiculous and I'd definitely have some objections.

Similarly, any bureaucratic actions require a 2FA app. I couldn't really avoid that since I need to file my timesheets, but for reasons I've never ascertained, the app works on my tablet (which is also Graphene) but not my phone. I pretty much only ever turn my tablet on for that purpose and it's on an SSID with guest isolation, so I don't mind that as much.

[–] ZombieCyborgFromOuterSpace@piefed.ca 2 points 17 hours ago (1 children)

LOL!

I had 2 smartphones for one job and I hated it. Had to carry 2 devices everywhere. What a pain in the butt that was. Now you can have a separate work profile that you can shut off at a press of a button which is great.

[–] artyom@piefed.social 7 points 16 hours ago* (last edited 16 hours ago) (1 children)

I don't carry 2 devices because I don't take it home with me. And I don't have to have corporate spyware on my personal device. No need to cycle profiles.

[–] nevyn@slrpnk.net 6 points 14 hours ago

Agreed, if they want you to have a device, they need to supply it.

[–] ZombieCyborgFromOuterSpace@piefed.ca 2 points 17 hours ago (2 children)

She's mostly editing excel sheets, word documents, powerpoint presentations, using outlook, and maybe Zoom and Teams for chat & meetings. It's not worth it.

It also means more techno junk that'll end up in landfills, too.

She doesn't mind honestly.

[–] mereo@piefed.ca 5 points 10 hours ago

So, basically, Microsoft products. I know you can access the web versions of these products, but I don't recommend relying solely on them because the document formatting often doesn't appear correctly in the web versions. I usually have to open them on the desktop version.

In that case, I recommend not going forward.

[–] nevyn@slrpnk.net 8 points 14 hours ago

so mainly microsoft software...

[–] webkitten@piefed.social 4 points 17 hours ago (1 children)

Linux Mint with kde-standard is my go to.

You get the stability of Mint, no snaps, and the customisability of KDE.

[–] ZombieCyborgFromOuterSpace@piefed.ca 3 points 16 hours ago (1 children)

Ooooh interesting.

Oh but I looked it up as I was typing this and the latest Mint is still on KDE Plasma 5 when the latest is 6. Even Debian 26.04 has KDE Plasma 6 now. Mint 23 is coming out in December.

I'll need to update before then as 25.10 will hit end of life this month.

In any case, I'll keep that in mind.

[–] webkitten@piefed.social 4 points 16 hours ago (1 children)

Also I just noticed the VPN statement and wanted to put a plug in for this: https://github.com/yuezk/GlobalProtect-openconnect

It's what I use for work since the Linux app was gated and it works great (I paid the licence for the GUI and have no regrets; the dev is quite responsive)

Nice, thank you !

[–] mmmm@sopuli.xyz 16 points 1 day ago (3 children)

I'd make sure to keep Win10 as dualboot. Office and the Microsoft account are big concerns and you didn't verify on them.

[–] ZombieCyborgFromOuterSpace@piefed.ca 4 points 17 hours ago (1 children)

That's a very good point. I might take @avidamoeba@lemmy.ca 's route though with a VM.

[–] avidamoeba@lemmy.ca 2 points 16 hours ago (1 children)

Just make sure it's well setup with shared home integration and all so it "just works." Can also use snapshots to "reinstall it," for when Windows shits the bed.

Haha! Great suggestions! :)

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[–] woelkchen@lemmy.world 12 points 1 day ago (5 children)

I never understand the thought process of giving a Linux newcomer some niche Ubuntu derivative.

Just go with Bazzite desktop. Pretty popular and should something go wrong, there is fairly up to date information out there, so no forum posts from 15 years ago with shell commands that at best don't work and at worst break stuff.

One concern I have is she uses her personal laptop for work

Employer needs to provide a new notebook.

[–] artyom@piefed.social 40 points 23 hours ago* (last edited 23 hours ago) (5 children)

How is Zorin a "niche Ubuntu derivative" and Bazzite is not a "niche Fedora derivative"? Bazzite is way more niche and way more derivative and most Fedora commands won't work on it.

Meanwhile any troubleshooting that works on Ubuntu (probably the most popular Linux distro?), Mint, Debian, etc. will all work on Zorin.

[–] nevyn@slrpnk.net 3 points 14 hours ago

I hear the kardashians and mcdonalds are also popular...

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[–] ZombieCyborgFromOuterSpace@piefed.ca 7 points 17 hours ago* (last edited 17 hours ago) (2 children)

No. Bazzite is a gaming-focused RedHat based atomic distro. She doesn't want a Steam machine. She wants a workstation. One that she will understand how it works without having to explain to her what the fuck an atomic OS and containerization is. It's a terrible choice for her.

Zorin OS is far from being a niche Ubuntu derivative. I don't know where you got that idea. Drauger OS is a niche derivative. Ubuntu Budgie is a niche derivative. But Zorin OS is a solid competitor to Linux Mint and is one of the fastest growing distros in terms of users. I don't consider that a niche distro at all.

Heck Bazzite is as niche a distro as it can get. It targets very specific users with very specific purposes with a very specific non-standard way of doing things. C'mon man.

Bazzite might be fine for YOUR specific needs. But you should consider that different people have different needs.

[–] chunkystyles@sopuli.xyz 1 points 8 hours ago

You have some misunderstandings about Bazzite. While it is gaming focused doesn't mean it's bad as a workstation. It's not like a Steam Machine. Depending on what she needs to do with the machine, it could be a great fit.

My non-techy wife uses Aurora which is a sister OS to Bazzite. It works fantastic for her and she'd be just as happy on Bazzite.

[–] Dymonika@lemmy.ml 1 points 9 hours ago

Even for a gamer like me, Bazzite ran so horribly on my PC that it wouldn't even open a Steam window. I could right-click the tray icon and see the context menu, but actually picking any of the options yielded nothing; no window ever popped up. It was so frustrating that I left shortly.

[–] BCsven@lemmy.ca 25 points 22 hours ago

Recommends another niche derivative

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[–] nevyn@slrpnk.net 1 points 14 hours ago

Which OS do you use?

I agree re: mint being dated

Ubuntu is getting into ai, so that means all of its babies are too

fedora toyed with the idea of ai but user push back stopped them (last I heard), but it is still something that interested them.

One of the arch distros is the way to go imo, I have been using manjaro kde (manjaro xfce prior to that) for a few years, I have distrohopped a couple of times out of interest, and never found anything as logical and user friendly as it. I currently also have debian, garuda kde lite, artix, and endeavour installed... but never switch to them.

Debian is weird but interesting, pain in the arse if you have nvidia. It also has weird password restrictions (not really a big deal, and can be modified with some effort)

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