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Like the title says, my partner's laptop was still running Windows 10 and they got infected with a backdoor malware. We'll need to reset her computer. It's an Asus Tuf Gaming A15.

She's been using Windows 10 for as long as she could but support is running out. At her work the computers are on Windows 11 and she hates it. Plus she's fervently anti-AI and wants none of that forced Copilot bullshit and privacy eroding features of Windows 11. She's seen me use it for over a year now and I also installed it on our old OG 1st gen MS Surface Pro table and she sees how well it's going. So now she wants Linux on her laptop.

After careful consideration and comparisons, I've decided to go with Zorin OS. I thought of Linux Mint, but it just looks so dated. There are inconistencies in the looks and I feel it lacks some features that I found that Zorin OS has. (It's essentially Gnome with QoL extras.) My only concern is that Zorin has Snaps out of the box but I don't think that's a concern for her. I'll install it on a BTRFS partition with automatic snapshots and grub-btrfs to recover from snapshots. And I'll schedule monthly backups of her files through rsync, or whatever the built-in backup tool does, onto an external drive.

I've tried Zorin on a VM and it was already outstanding. On the live USB session it was able to detect her NVidia card and recommend either the nouveau or NVidia proprietary driver. Everything worked out of the box. So I'm fairly confident everything will work well. One concern I have is she uses her personal laptop for work, and needs to connect to her work's Microsoft account. I see there's an accounts section in the settings where this can be set up, but I've never used it, so that'll be a first. Her work also requires Cisco AnyConnect VPN client. There is a Linux client, but you need a Cisco account to download it, and her work IT department does not support Linux, so I don't know if she'll be able to get it. One of the IT people has Linux on his machine and was able to set it up so maybe we'll rely on him for that part. She'll also need MS Office which uses a work license. I wonder how that will work on Bottles. We can try with Libre Office but I know the spacing and fonts get all wonky when you open a MS Word document or a Powerpoint presentation. Every other app she uses is open source apps like Gimp, Inkscape, Audacity, etc. And she doesn't game much, but I know this will work just fine. And the Gnome-Network-Displays will allow her to cast her screen onto our NVidia Shield device for watching movies.

Is there anything else I should be concerned about? Maybe hardware wise? Or anything to so with Snaps that could cause issues?

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[–] HubertManne@piefed.social 5 points 21 hours ago (2 children)

I used it. Its a nice out of box distro that is windows like in gui setup and lets you just install and go. That being said I eventually wanted better windows type snapping behavior and installed kde. I went to bazzite just to have something out of the box ready for gaming and I like the whole right only image thing. Anything debian based is nice to because many websites with windows downloads offer a .deb option. I use app image for most of my software though much like on windows I used portable apps as it makes moving to a new machine easier.

Yeah, Debian is my OS of choice honestly. Rock solid and very stable and secure thanks to the thorough testing the packages go through. Yeah the software is older, but it's worth it in terms of time saved.

And like you said, there's TONS of 3rd party support for it.

[–] Kirk@startrek.website 2 points 19 hours ago (2 children)

This was my exact journey, though I eventually landed on immutable Fedora with KDE. Zorin is a great OS but it's in a weird space because it's probably already too simple for anyone who knows what Linux is.

Some people just want their OS to get out of their way. That's what Zorin does.

That's what I liked about Kubuntu. Install it and forget it. You barely have to do anything and you forget you're running Linux at all while you get all your work and play done. I don't have time to mess around with some configs to modify my atomic installation and what not. I just open the software center and install whatever the heck I need. And if the Flatpak doesn't work, I can install from the deb instead.

But now that Snaps are becoming mandatory for core features, I'm going to go the Debian route.

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[–] moonlight@fedia.io 6 points 23 hours ago (1 children)

The issue with snaps is that they are proprietary, and are less space efficient and probably a bit slower. If that doesn't bother her than it's fine. You could also choose to use flatpak (also containerized like snaps) or just use apt (from the terminal or a gui)

Also OnlyOffice might be a better option for MS compatibility. You could also just run a VM if you need to.

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[–] vikingtons@lemmy.world 6 points 23 hours ago* (last edited 23 hours ago) (1 children)

The win10 ESU has been extended for yet another year, so you have a bit more time. Your partner sounds reasonably tech savvy. could be worth grabbing a few different distros on a ventoy drive to play around with, even though the main factor in terms of UX is often the DE.

might have a slight bias here but fedora workstation has been a reliable system for me and I'm just a dumb guy on the internet. I use it with gnome + plugins to make gnome leas daft, though the kde spin is solid.

openconnect should work with cisco anyconnect; you can theoretically connect via CLI but that may be a bit rough UX wise. You could also set her connect command up to a global hotkey in gnome or whatever, and initiate a connection via keyboard shortcut.

Office via web might be the best should for now, however.

[–] ZombieCyborgFromOuterSpace@piefed.ca 1 points 16 hours ago (2 children)

Hi, thanks for the advice! Yeah we know about the extended support. But it's going to end at some point anyway and she was just about ready to do the switch before that was even announced. So might was well.

My beef with Fedora is that it's backed by RedHat which I don't particularly like. ( They do business with the Israeli military forces. ) And also it doesn't come with multimedia codecs out of the box. Third: I'm more used to Debian's packaging system as well, so it'll be easier for me to troubleshoot or give her directions.

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[–] Rustmilian@lemmy.world 6 points 1 day ago* (last edited 19 hours ago) (2 children)

Totally understandable that you’d gravitate toward Zorin. It really can feel like a “ready-made desktop” experience, and for a lot of people that first impression is the whole game.

But if you are thinking in terms of what she will actually enjoy using day to day, I would shift the focus a bit. Since you are the one choosing for her, the win is not only picking the right distro, it is picking the desktop experience that fits her habits and taste.

As the Desktop Environment (DE) is going to be the primary way she'll interact with the computer, and as any DE can be installed on any distro. It's more important to figure that out first then find a distro that caters to that DE experience best while covering as many of her needs as possible. GNOME, KDE Plasma, COSMIC, Xfce, Cinnamon, Budgie, Deepin Desktop Environment,

PantheonElementary OS's Pantheon can be installed on other distributions, just a pain.

I'll install it on a BTRFS partition with automatic snapshots and grub-btrfs to recover from snapshots.

Take a look at Timeshift.

Maybe hardware wise?

You can use hw-probe to check if the hardware is working and if you need to take any further action to get things working, it's a very good starting point.

Or anything to so with Snaps that could cause issues?

It maybe more preferable to use flatpak, so I'd suggest considering it.

[–] BCsven@lemmy.ca 4 points 21 hours ago (1 children)

Nice thing about Zorin is they have 4 maybe more modes you can set the desktop to. Closer to Gnome or more like KDE on the other end.

[–] Rustmilian@lemmy.world 4 points 21 hours ago* (last edited 21 hours ago) (2 children)

Yeah, Zorin Appearance gives you lots of other system desktop layouts and theming. Which is great, but Zorin OS Standard is essentially GNOME with added customization, so it is not a fundamentally new desktop environment. If you’re willing to install the relevant Zorin Appearance packages or install the right GNOME theme elements like icons, GTK and window manager themes, and a few extensions or docks, a similar look can often be recreated on other GNOME based distributions. The main difference is that Zorin bundles it preconfigured.

[–] BCsven@lemmy.ca 2 points 21 hours ago (3 children)

It's not tweaks on top of gnome its back end GNOME config done by Zorin team. GNOME is highly customizable just not easily the user facing way like KDE.

I dont use Zorin but in trials I'd say it is a solid choice; they are working at making it a solid stable corporate distro, including the Grid Product for mass system deployment and management.

[–] Rustmilian@lemmy.world 3 points 21 hours ago* (last edited 20 hours ago) (5 children)

You can take just about any GNOME install and just do something like :

# apt-get install zorin-appearance
# apt-get install zorin-appearance-layouts-shell-core
# apt-get install zorin-appearance-layouts-support
# apt-get install zorin-auto-theme

It's really not terribly hard to do. Say like fedora workstation for example, you could do it without too much trouble assuming the packages are available in some capacity.
It's essentially just as System76's Pop_OS! was prior to Cosmic DE.
The appeal is valid, it's just that you can pretty easily reproduce it on a different distribution. That's the real appeal of Linux, don't you think.
It's just something to consider before you pay $50 for ZorinOS Pro.

[–] BCsven@lemmy.ca 2 points 20 hours ago (1 children)

Sure, but I'd pay $50 at this point. I like that Linux is free, but supporting them through a one time paid model is a good thing. SaaS though, that shit can fuuck right off.

[–] Rustmilian@lemmy.world 3 points 20 hours ago* (last edited 19 hours ago)

Sure, but I'd pay $50 at this point. I like that Linux is free, but supporting them through a one time paid model is a good thing.

There's usually a donation or merchandise model that's relied on to support FLOSS devs, as well a gaining corporate sponsorships.

SaaS though, that shit can fuuck right off.

As a consumer model I 100% agree, software as a service is horrible. Fuck Adobe btw.
As for if corporations have to pay for it and consumers don't, it works.

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[–] rimu@piefed.social 5 points 1 day ago (2 children)

If the ms office apps don't run on Linux you might be able to use them through a browser, just like Google docs.

[–] CCMan1701A@startrek.website 2 points 18 hours ago

I think older versions of office work under wine. I think the 2020 versions... I forget

[–] ZombieCyborgFromOuterSpace@piefed.ca 1 points 16 hours ago (2 children)

Yeah, but she wants the desktop version. She has a license for it. Might run it through wine, yes. The problem will be printing. I haven't figured out how to set up a printer in Wine yet.

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[–] inari@piefed.zip 2 points 20 hours ago

I used Zorin for several years and love it, I always recommend it to newcomers. Everything Just WorksTM

[–] msokiovt@lemmy.today 3 points 23 hours ago (1 children)

Zorin is a solid choice. Ubuntu-based without digital ID, Irish-made (not subject to the American digital ID laws), and designed with digital freedom in mind, despite snap format being enabled by default.

[–] ZombieCyborgFromOuterSpace@piefed.ca 1 points 15 hours ago (1 children)

That's the ONLY thing preventing me from installing it on my own PC honestly. I absolutely love how they customized Gnome and the many QoL features they added.

I'm currently using Kubuntu 25.10 on my own PC and need to switch because I don't want Ubuntu's 26.04 with forced Snaps for core features of the OS. I think that's bullshit. I love KDE and how close to Windows the experience is and how much you can customize it. But I miss the GNOME simplicity sometimes. Gnome 2 was perfect. Switched to MATE when Ubuntu started shipping with Gnome 3 and that held for a while. Then I moved to KDE Plasma once it evolved from the bug-riddled, resource-heavy mess KDE Plasma 4 was when it came out. And I've stuck with that since.

Honestly now I'm considering just installing Debian Trixie with KDE and call it a day. I'm used to it now and I don't want to spend weeks customizing my Gnome shell with a million extensions that might break at the next update.

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[–] Lumisal@lemmy.world 1 points 21 hours ago (2 children)

Wouldn't go with Zorin - the Snaps will be frustrating.

Choose something with KDE which is still very Windows-like + either a Debian build or Fedora build. Both can support Flatpaks easily.

PikaOS if you want a Debian based distro with KDE that's game ready, or Nobara for a Fedora based distro that's game ready. Nobaracones with a good deal of Wine presets that should make running certain Windows software easier too.

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[–] Codilingus@piefed.social 0 points 1 day ago

W11 Enterprise IoT LTSC is a very solid, no AI option if she wants to stick with Windows. Use StartAllBack on top of it, and it will remind you of a fresh W7 install.

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