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[–] mlg@lemmy.world 1 points 11 minutes ago

Yesh if you ignore the massive slap that is the steam machine.

Valve got so good at doing nothing for a decade they forgot how to do things again lol.

[–] carotte@lemmy.blahaj.zone 18 points 4 hours ago (3 children)

"i am angry at the company who’s killing physical distribution on console. to comfort myself i’ll glaze the company who killed physical distribution on pc"

??????

[–] Soggy@lemmy.world 2 points 39 minutes ago

Valve isn't in charge of CD production, they're just providing a digital storefront. Game publishers choose digital because it's more profitable when you can ignore logistics.

[–] Buddahriffic@lemmy.world 13 points 2 hours ago

There's two main reasons why I like physical media:

  1. Longevity. If the maker/publisher of the game doesn't want to support it anymore or goes broke, I still have the game.
  2. Used game market. I've got a backlog of PS4 games I got cheap because they still existed after demand went down, so prices went down.

Steam meets both of those in different ways.

  1. Any game I've purchased on Steam has remained available to install, even though some of them aren't available for sale anymore via Steam. If a publisher folds, Steam can still serve their files to people who bought the game before it folded. This might change in the future and there might be exceptions where a publisher went to court to stop Steam from serving the files (not that I know of any cases of this, just acknowledging the possibility exists here while it doesn't for physical games you already own), but so far so good.
  2. Steam sales are often better than used game sales. Sure, not all publishers participate in them, but my steam backlog dwarfs my console backlog because I can often buy multiple games for the price of one used disc game.

They are both ultimately in it for greed, but a different kind of greed. Sony wants the short term make most profits this quarter every quarter, even if this quarter's strategy hurts next quarter, that's a problem for next quarter.

Valve seems to at least understand that not taking its users for granted and forcing shitty options on them to make a quick buck will mean they are more willing to continue spending money on their shit.

Also, Valve didn't come in trying to end physical media, they were a digital service from the start. Similarly, I had no problem with some games on the PS store not having physical releases and I've even bought a few. My issue is that the physical disc drive is one of the main reasons I even have a ps5, so saying they won't be doing them anymore mostly just means that the ps6 won't be as interesting to me. I'm not even really mad, just disappointed and moving on.

[–] nullspace@lemmy.world 13 points 3 hours ago (2 children)

To be fair physical media for PC has always been a bit different than the "insert disc, play game" you get on consoles.

[–] silicon@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 11 minutes ago

For modern PCs most don't have optical drives anymore and it'd have to be USB sticks and there's no guarantee if It would outlast an optical disk. Kind of a tough situation for archival purposes.

[–] CptOblivius@lemmy.world 3 points 3 hours ago

And to be fair, there are so many games on steam or GOG that I want to play, we can wait until they are on sale. Usually for a fraction of the original price.

[–] HCSOThrowaway@lemmy.world 20 points 5 hours ago (1 children)

Turns out if you don't have shareholders to report to, you can focus on making things better for consumers rather than squeezing every last penny out of them.

[–] laurenceOfSuburbia@lemmy.world 6 points 4 hours ago (1 children)

Right? Damn. That's why private companies are better

[–] Dogiedog64@lemmy.world 2 points 53 minutes ago (1 children)

Whooaahhhhhhhhh there, bucko, let's slow the fuck down there. There are PLENTY of terrible private companies out there! OpenAI, Anthropic, Pulte, and Kiewit come to mind.

[–] Aeder@lemmy.world 3 points 41 minutes ago

That sounds like most of the terrible private companies are just companies that want to go public.

[–] gmtom@lemmy.world 3 points 3 hours ago (3 children)

This is peak Gaben simp meme. Steam were the pioneers of "you don't own the game, you just own a licence to play it" model which has caused massive amounts of enshittification of the gaming industry. Not to mention all the other bullshit they've pushed over the years.

But valve always gets a pass because dumbass games think "lord Gaben" is their best friend because he sells other peoples games for 90% off some times.

[–] Kolanaki@pawb.social 3 points 50 minutes ago* (last edited 49 minutes ago)

Microsoft pioneered the "your software is licensed, not owned" in the early 80s. Even before Steam, you didn't own your games. Even if they are on physical media, you don't own the software on the media; you just own the media it came on.

[–] YiddishMcSquidish@lemmy.today 5 points 3 hours ago (1 children)

Idk man. I remember someone recommending spec ops: the line a few weeks ago, but said it's not available on steam any more. I bought it eons ago and had no problem besides controls getting it on my deck.

[–] MrVilliam@sh.itjust.works 2 points 3 hours ago (1 children)

Have you finished it yet? It's best played through fairly quickly so you can remember different parts. There are a couple of frustrating encounters, but the story is top notch.

[–] YiddishMcSquidish@lemmy.today 2 points 2 hours ago (1 children)

Fuck me! No I got like 2 hours in a while back but my god damned AuDHD had me focus on something else.

[–] Simon_Shitewood@lemmy.ml 2 points 1 hour ago (1 children)

Not a particularly bad place to stop, I got a few hours in, stopped, then when I picked it back up I realised I'd basically stopped right before the story kicks in and was hooked for the rest.

[–] YiddishMcSquidish@lemmy.today 1 points 52 minutes ago

I think I stopped right after the white phosphorus scene. Maybe it was emotionally fucking with me is why I dropped it. Now that I'm thinking about it, I'll prolly pick it up after my family leaves town.

[–] hmmmmm@altgag.net 2 points 3 hours ago

i still can download the crew

[–] starman2112@sh.itjust.works 7 points 5 hours ago (1 children)

You can't stop selling physical copies if you never sold physical copies in the first place

[–] stiephelando@discuss.tchncs.de 3 points 4 hours ago (1 children)

Valve did sell physical copies for quite some time you know

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[–] hayvan@piefed.world 190 points 10 hours ago (24 children)

This meme is my pet peeve, it annoys me so much. It cannot be further from the truth.

Valve doesn't do nothing. They intentionally operate their platform in ways that keep customers satisfied, while making long term investments into hardware and OS development. That's not "nothing". That's doing a lot of things right.

[–] ptz@dubvee.org 162 points 10 hours ago (1 children)
[–] village604@adultswim.fan 25 points 6 hours ago (1 children)

A career in IT in a nutshell

[–] ptz@dubvee.org 12 points 6 hours ago* (last edited 6 hours ago) (1 children)

Truth.

That's why I hate the annual "what did you do this year to justify your salary?" reports we have to do. It's like...."Was everyone else able to do their jobs? Yes? Did we get hacked this year? No? Then I was doing my job"

[–] FUCKING_CUNO@lemmy.dbzer0.com 9 points 5 hours ago

everything is broken

"What are we paying you for?!"

everything is working

"What are we paying you for?!"

[–] nialv7@lemmy.world 28 points 9 hours ago* (last edited 9 hours ago) (4 children)

it's amazing to me how valve employees & gaben haven't become out of touch with their customers (i.e. ordinary people), despite how rich they must have gotten. it's documented phenomenon in psychology that the richer and more powerful you got, the less capacity you will have for sympathy. basically, as a company gets big and rich, they stop being able to understand what will piss their users off (think "dO yOu GuYs NoT hAvE pHoNeS?").

this hasn't seemed to have happened with valve yet, somehow. they still seem to be down to earth people. (btw, if you haven't watched any of the steam sales promotion videos, they are pretty fun, take a look).

[–] ryannathans@aussie.zone 45 points 9 hours ago (2 children)

Not a public company, makes big difference

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[–] iamthetot@piefed.ca 7 points 7 hours ago (1 children)

They also profited like crazy from under age, unregulated gambling and did nothing to very little to curb it.

[–] marcos@lemmy.world 8 points 7 hours ago

Yes. They profited (less than most of their competition) from it, and only acted when forced by governments (while their competition is still resisting).

I refer you to the meme. Do the least, win.

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No shareholders to demand unlimited growth and constant enshitification.

[–] JelleWho@lemmy.world 17 points 8 hours ago (1 children)

'doesn't make there products intentionally shit' and 'competition shoots themzelfs in the head'. I think I know why they are winning the race

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[–] far_university1990@reddthat.com 46 points 10 hours ago (14 children)

invest in open ecosystem

maintain and develop platform for user

70/30 cut to offer thing on market

run gambling system

"nothing"

[–] hayvan@piefed.world 30 points 10 hours ago

"When you do things right, people won't be sure you've done anything at all."

-- God (In Futurama)

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