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Electric Vehicles are a key part of our tomorrow and how we get there. If we can get all the fossil fuel vehicles off our roads, out of our seas and out of our skies, we'll have a much better environment. This community is where we discuss the various different vehicles and news stories regarding electric transportation.


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[–] brucethemoose@lemmy.world 7 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (1 children)

I think this is what “want an EV, research it heavily” folks tend to end up with, where Teslas leans more “want an EV, don’t research it quite as heavily” crowd.

Not that either brand makes bad cars.

I just mean the Hyundai/Kia EVs are less “sexy” on the surface. Their charge and range is lower, but if you look into it, it’s an engineering compromise for faster charging. Hyundai isn’t a very “glamorous” brand, but their recent cars have been excellent, and if you actually look into Tesla, well… gestures at X. Lower end Teslas are priced somewhat attractively and tend to have better resale value than Hyundai at the moment, and it’s quite rational to assume “well, they’ve been making EVs longer.” But if you research it, Teslas have a more hidden costs over time, and even though some systems like the heatpumps are less refined than Teslas, Hyundai engineered the heck out of the car.

[–] Quill7513@slrpnk.net 2 points 2 days ago (6 children)

The only downside I know of with the Hyundai is that their single pedal driving controller interprets US law about braking strictly and does not turn on the brake lights unless you dump the pedal, engaging the brake rotors. So either just don't use single pedal driving mode, or have faith that US drivers don't drive distracted (this is an endorsement for not using Hyundai's single pedal driving mode btw)

[–] NotMyOldRedditName@lemmy.world 6 points 2 days ago (2 children)

Also their failing ICCUs. They keep trying to fix it, but people keep reporting it's not fully solved.

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[–] JordanZ@lemmy.world 3 points 2 days ago (2 children)

I was behind a Tesla that stopped at a red light from ~40mph and the brake lights didn’t turn on until about 10 seconds after we had come to a complete stop. One pedal driving is broken in basically all of them.

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[–] dan@upvote.au 7 points 2 days ago (3 children)

I nearly got an Ioniq 5 as our second car, but ended up getting a BMW i4 instead. I was very impressed with the Ioniq 5 - it's a fantastic car. We already had an iX though, andI figured it'd be best to stick to something with the same UI. I'm mostly a frontend developer and UI quirks really get to me, so I'd rather just deal with one set of quirks.

[–] timbuck2themoon@sh.itjust.works 3 points 2 days ago (1 children)

How's the i4 (and iX) been? Any complaints or issues?

[–] dan@upvote.au 4 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (3 children)

They're both very nice cars! No complaints.

The i4 is great because it looks like a regular car. It's literally just a 4 series grand coupe with an electric drivetrain. No gimmicks, no "the car needs to look futuristic" approach that so many manufacturers take with their EVs. The door handles are regular mechanical door handles.

The iX is... not exactly the opposite, but close enough. My understanding it that it was a concept car that BMW ended up releasing publicly. It's got an expensive electrochromic glass roof that you can switch between clear and frosted by pressing a button. It's got flush, electronic door handles. It's got a carbon fiber chassis. Things like that.

The iX is extremely comfortable for back seat passengers, as the back of the car is huge!

Everything the i4 can do, the iX can do at least a bit better. For example:

  • i4 can do hands-free highway driving up to 40mph, whereas the iX does it up to 85mph.
  • Both have options for parking and 360 cameras, but the cameras on the iX are noticeably higher resolution.
  • i4 has air suspension for the back, whereas iX has air suspension for all four wheels.
  • They're both great to drive, but the iX is smoother and quieter. The cabin is extremely quiet even at highway speeds.

The i4 is a lot cheaper though. I'm leasing both, and the i4 is less than half the price of the iX. I'm in the USA and we're paying $812/month plus tax for the iX, and $394/month plus tax for the i4, thanks to a combination of rebates, BMW loyalty discount (for the i4), and a 10% discount off MSRP.

We custom ordered the iX. It took a few months, but we could get exactly the options we wanted. It doesn't cost any extra to get a custom-built one compared to getting one from a dealer's lot.

Unfortunately, the iX has been discontinued in the USA. They cut off custom orders a few months ago, and dealers don't have many left. Rumor is that tariffs made it cost too much to import into the USA. The iX5 is supposed to replace it, but it's not coming out until next year.

[–] baines@lemmy.cafe 2 points 2 days ago (1 children)

hands free at 85 is some scary shit

[–] dan@upvote.au 2 points 2 days ago (1 children)

I don't use it quite that fast, but it works very well. It has radar and ultrasonic sensors in addition to cameras, and you can only use it on routes they've mapped out (in the USA that's most of the highways), so I'd trust it more than Tesla.

[–] baines@lemmy.cafe 1 points 2 days ago

for sure better than tesla

probably better than most humans

but all code has bugs, still scary

[–] CookieOfFortune@lemmy.world 1 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Doesn’t the i4 have a footwell hump in the back? That’s my main complaint about cars that aren’t bottom up EVs.

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[–] PonyOfWar@pawb.social 6 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (1 children)

Test-drove one when I was looking for an EV. Nice car but the turning radius is ridiculously large, which along with the general size of the car made me go for a Kia EV3 instead. I guess those points wouldn't be much of an issue on American roads though.

[–] Kushan@lemmy.world 3 points 2 days ago

We nearly bought one as well but went for an EV6 instead (which is basically the same car in a different shell), in the UK. The turning circle was definitely a concern but honestly has been fine.

[–] JeeBaiChow@lemmy.world 5 points 3 days ago

The N variant is a beast

[–] ExLisper@lemmy.curiana.net 2 points 2 days ago (2 children)

It's selling even better than Cybertruck?

[–] Sunshine@piefed.ca 5 points 2 days ago (2 children)

I noticed the cybertrucks trucks disappearing in my area.

[–] Quill7513@slrpnk.net 7 points 2 days ago

Along with fellow humans giving CT drivers the bird and snarky notes under their one dumb windshield wiper, they're also just... not very good vehicles. The steering is vague, the acceleration is ass because the vehicle is so heavy, and they get the gremlins if they get wet and they weren't set to car wash mode. So some drivers are going to be quietly trying to trade them in for shame, and some are going to be perpetually in the shop getting fixes for problems they never should have been allowed to have in the first place

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[–] ajikeshi@lemmy.world 1 points 1 day ago

is anyone that is not spacex actually buying cybertrucks?

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