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[–] y0kai@lemmy.dbzer0.com 18 points 7 hours ago (1 children)

Uh you mean since like, 2001?

[–] Thedogdrinkscoffee@lemmy.ca 2 points 33 minutes ago

And by US, the author means the world.

[–] prole@lemmy.blahaj.zone 44 points 11 hours ago (4 children)

Is there a word for when the media is constantly like 3+ years behind with "warnings" like this? I mean Jesus Christ, turning into?

[–] xodoh74984@lemmy.world 14 points 8 hours ago (1 children)
[–] prole@lemmy.blahaj.zone 5 points 7 hours ago

True... Though things have accelerated at an alarming pace over the past few years

[–] danzabia@infosec.pub 3 points 7 hours ago

Better that they cover it than not. And the recent ramp up is worth reporting on, it's a new level of weaponization compared to previous administrations.

[–] wewbull@feddit.uk 2 points 8 hours ago

I'm sure German could do a compound of "spät erkennen" or similar for a late realisation.

[–] propitiouspanda@lemmy.cafe 2 points 9 hours ago

There's a pokemon for it.

[–] mannycalavera@feddit.uk 50 points 12 hours ago (15 children)

"turning"? 🤣🤣

You Yankees really do live in a bubble.

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[–] brachiosaurus@mander.xyz 39 points 13 hours ago

it's already a surveillance state and both the red and blue party are complicit.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2010s_global_surveillance_disclosures

[–] FinishingDutch@lemmy.world 51 points 14 hours ago (1 children)

Uh, do the kids these days really not know about the post-9/11 Patriot Act?

[–] Bloomcole@lemmy.world 18 points 13 hours ago (1 children)

Well Obama 'fixed' it.
Made it even more draconian but called it the Freedom Act.
Shit like that works every time.

[–] FinishingDutch@lemmy.world 8 points 10 hours ago (3 children)

God I miss the pre-9/11 US, when the worst thing happening was bad jokes on SNL about Bill Clinton and cigars.

[–] 5in1k@lemm.ee 1 points 43 minutes ago

We sent all our manufacturing capabilities to China.

[–] 3abas@lemm.ee 1 points 1 hour ago

Now read some books and see how much Bill Clinton is directly to blame for most awful shit we're dealing with today, and while you shouldn't come to justify 9-11, you'll understand its motivation correctly.

Bill Clinton and neo-libs like him is why we go right instead of left as a society.

[–] Bloomcole@lemmy.world 9 points 9 hours ago

Maybe not the best example.
At that time this sleezebag (and others with power) got away with a lot of sexual misconduct.
And in his case probably rapes.
Minimising it as him being some naughthy schoolboy and making jokes about is not really something I miss.

[–] serenissi@lemmy.world 9 points 11 hours ago

wait US is putting surveillance on techno producers?

[–] bricklove@midwest.social 7 points 11 hours ago* (last edited 1 hour ago) (1 children)

Here's a 20 year old album about it (it's really cool that my favorite band is called ISIS. It's neat how they broke up in 2010 but I still can only wear the merch at home)

[–] teamevil@lemmy.world 2 points 8 hours ago

Panopticon is fucking brilliant...hands down my Favorite ISIS album.

[–] nullPointer@programming.dev 40 points 16 hours ago (1 children)

kinda been that way since 2001

[–] rottingleaf@lemmy.world 2 points 8 hours ago

Since a bit earlier or so I've read.

[–] just_another_person@lemmy.world 75 points 17 hours ago (2 children)

Every part of the world is. It's not unique to the US. Laws need to be passed to stop this.

[–] kyub@discuss.tchncs.de 50 points 17 hours ago* (last edited 17 hours ago) (2 children)

Yes. Unfortunately, these systems are also a great gift for any upcoming fascist regime (like the Trump junta currently) which will not only happily continue using the existing infrastructure but also extend it like mad.

Maybe humanity's greatest weaknesses overall: the lack of foresight and the lack of wisdom learned from historic precedents (e.g. Nazi Germany? Forgotten by now). Everything's always about short-term goals, ignoring any long-term disadvantages. See also: climate disaster.

[–] Plebcouncilman@sh.itjust.works 36 points 16 hours ago (1 children)

Bet you $500 that the next democrat president won’t tear down the system and will in fact give even more contracts to Palantir & co.

[–] Tollana1234567@lemmy.today 1 points 1 hour ago

Palantir have been with every president since it's inception. I once searched palintir, lotr 10+years ago, it was already well established by then

[–] CitizenKong@lemmy.world 10 points 16 hours ago (3 children)

That's a capitalism weakness, not a human weakness though.

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[–] ogmios@sh.itjust.works 6 points 16 hours ago

Laws aren't enough for something of this magnitude. The general population needs to grow to match the much greater challenges presented by modern technology, or we're going to descend into another dark age until we do learn how to behave.

[–] JoeKrogan@lemmy.world 21 points 15 hours ago (1 children)

Where are all the "nothing to hide" people now.

[–] WanderingThoughts@europe.pub 3 points 11 hours ago

Probably realizing that Democrats can now trace who bought MAGA hats and they too have guns.

[–] FreedomAdvocate 19 points 16 hours ago (1 children)

"Turning into" lol. The USA and all their partner countries like the ones in the 5 Eyes program have all been mass techno-surveillance states for decades.

[–] Knock_Knock_Lemmy_In@lemmy.world 11 points 13 hours ago (3 children)

The 5 eyes countries are not allowed to spy on their own citizens, but they can freely share data.

Isn't there an obvious loophole here.

[–] FreedomAdvocate 2 points 7 hours ago

It’s almost like it was by design.

They also just spy on their own citizens anyway, because who is going to stop them?

[–] propitiouspanda@lemmy.cafe 5 points 9 hours ago

The 5 eyes countries are not allowed to spy on their own citizens

I mean, they do it anyways.

[–] elvith@feddit.org 7 points 13 hours ago

Shhhh... Don't make it even more obvious. The fig leaf covering it is already so flaccid, that it might instantaneously turn into dust at the slightest disturbance.

[–] peereboominc@lemm.ee 5 points 16 hours ago

How hard did Musk press his fingers on his other hand? Or does his blood not flow that hard?

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