BoldTake

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[–] BoldTake@hexbear.net 1 points 4 years ago

The amount of people who apparently aren’t aware of their ties to eugenics is… weird.

[–] BoldTake@hexbear.net 0 points 4 years ago* (last edited 4 years ago) (1 children)

Look over the actual paper, that comment is not coherent. Also from an 8 day old account, so they're probably one of those dweebs who keeps getting banned for being insufferable.

[–] BoldTake@hexbear.net 0 points 4 years ago* (last edited 4 years ago) (1 children)

Interesting you shift to pitbulls. That topic has been covered in other threads. Pitbulls are fine and the fear around them is largely based in racism.

example on how connected "dog breeds" and eugenics are:

https://terriermandotcom.blogspot.com/2008/12/eugenics-man-at-kennel-club.html

[–] BoldTake@hexbear.net 0 points 4 years ago* (last edited 4 years ago) (3 children)

:morshupls:

The bazinga is off the charts in this one.

you want to insultingly compare this to human eugenic atrocities

look up the history of where the dog breeds you care so much about came from :)

you can absolutely identify broad characteristics among breeds

the study speaks to this. it is present, but extremely limited. clearest example was hounds barking more and border collies being a bit more proficient at learning commands.

 

Link to the paper in Science: Ancestry-inclusive dog genomics challenges popular breed stereotypes.

Environment and socialization remain the largest determining factor.

Unsurprisingly, most stereotypes about dog breeds are pseudoscience that come from the eugenics movement. In particular, “popular knowledge” around pitbulls and bulldogs is just thinly veiled racism.

interview on the study from the verge: https://www.theverge.com/2022/4/28/23043508/dog-breed-behavior-genetics-study-stereotypes

The research did find some genes associated with traits like human sociability and howling frequency. But overall, only around 9 percent of dog behavior was explained by breed.

“Dogs are individuals,” said Marjie Alonso, a study author and executive director of the International Association of Animal Behavior Consultants. “What a dog looks like is not really going to tell you what the dog acts like.”

Edit: modern “purebred” breeding literally came from eugenicists, that’s why this old political cartoon even exists. Documentary on pedigree dogs and their many issues: https://vimeo.com/166015460