Edie

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[–] Edie@lemmy.ml 8 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

"Objective fact"^[It is known]. Also there are site wide (lemmy.ml) rules, which I assume is the one you are in violation of:

[rule 1] No bigotry - including racism, sexism, ableism, homophobia, transphobia, or xenophobia. Code of Conduct.

[–] Edie@lemmy.ml 30 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)

  We are sometimes inclined, I think unwisely, to treat democracy and dictatorship as two mutually exclusive terms, when in actual fact they may often represent two aspects of the same system of government. For example, if we turn to the Encyclopedia Britannica, to the article dealing with “Democracy,” we read: “Democracy is that form of government in which the people rules itself, either directly, as in the small city-states of Greece, or through representatives.”
  But the same writer goes on to say this: “All the people in the city-state did not have the right to participate in government, but only those who were citizens, in the legal and original sense. Outside this charmed circle of the privileged were the slaves, who had no voice whatever in the making of the laws under which they toiled. They had no political and hardly any civil rights; they were not ‘people.’ Thus the democracy of the Greek city-state was in the strict sense no democracy at all.”
  The Greek city-state has been cited time and again by historians as the birthplace of democracy. And yet, on reading the Encyclopedia Britannica, we find that in fact this was a democracy only for a “charmed circle of the privileged,” while the slaves, who did the work of the community, “had no voice whatever in the making of the laws under which they toiled.”
  The classical example of democracy was, then, a democracy only for certain people. For others, for those who did the hard work of the community, it was a dictatorship. At the very birthplace of democracy itself we find that democracy and dictatorship went hand in hand as two aspects of the same political system. To refer to the “democracy” of the Greek city-state without saying for whom this democracy existed is misleading. To describe the democracy of the Greek city-state without pointing out that it could only exist as a result of the toil of the slaves who “had no political and hardly any civil rights” falsifies the real history of the origin of democracy.
  Democracy, then, from its origin, has not precluded the simultaneous existence of dictatorship. The essential question which must be asked, when social systems appear to include elements both of democracy and dictatorship, is, “for whom is there democracy?” and “over whom is there a dictatorship?”

—Pat Sloan, in the Introduction to Soviet Democracy

[–] Edie@lemmy.ml 10 points 2 months ago (1 children)

What... you think I'm a mod or admin?

[–] Edie@lemmy.ml 8 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (3 children)

Yet you deem my behavior as more harmful to the community.

The fuck are you talking about?

Why are you both so fixated on that hyper-specific, non-sequitor?

I'm not.

[–] Edie@lemmy.ml 7 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (5 children)

You could have said that @Cowbee@lemmy.ml worded it incorrectly, and that you never said that, you only said that a specific line wasn't bolded (at least I assume that is what you are trying to get at here)

It would be a better use of everyones time.

[–] Edie@lemmy.ml 20 points 2 months ago (1 children)

This post is really sparse, you should see the "Posting Guidelines" in the sidebar for what you ought to include.

[–] Edie@lemmy.ml 12 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (1 children)

It's not about being "extreme" (and liberalism is plenty extreme, see books like The Jakarta Method, Killing Hope, and Liberalism: A Counter-History), it's about liberalism being pro-capitalism and therefore Liberals not leftists.

[–] Edie@lemmy.ml 10 points 2 months ago (8 children)

dbzero blocks grad.

[–] Edie@lemmy.ml 5 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

136+ million

Edit: wait your saying Soviet Russia which means only the RSFSR

[–] Edie@lemmy.ml 3 points 2 months ago

Ah, that's right. Very hard to tell, but in one of the photos of him it does seem to have a hammer and sickle on it.

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