Hikki88

If you said ‘we got the internet thanks to farmers’ that would be indisputable, everything flowed from that.

And why not? Philosophically, a strong argument can be made that the Agricultural Revolution laid the groundwork for everything we know today, including the internet. I don’t see why admitting that would be a problem as it’s simply the truth.

I don’t see why an internet couldn’t emerge in other economic contexts because internet technology depends on physics and those laws transcend any and all economic systems. We already know this because almost every jurisdiction has the internet.

I never disputed that it couldn’t be done, but it’s still a hypothetical. The reality is that capitalists stepped in, and the internet spread like wildfire. Could it be done in other scenarios? Maybe. But pointing out reality shouldn’t be inconvenient.

The influence of capitalism on the internet has been a mixed bag. e-commerce: good. App ecosystem: ranging from good to addiction health crisis. Walled gardens and enshitification: bad. Misinformation and radicalisation of political groups: dire, potentially an existential threat.

Everything has positives and negatives, everything is a mixed bag. People try to label everything in black and white boxes but reality is mostly gray. Still, it doesn’t change the fact that the internet is in people’s hands because of capitalism.

Cool, I think it's correct and to pretend that it's otherwise won't help when you're in the search for truth. We can agree to disagree.

I’ve made my case, and I never said that. What you do with this information is up to you.

We all know how it came to be, you didn't get the point but it's okay.

Clarified here

I'm telling you it spread because of government funding and capitalists were just the medium by which the funding was used.

It doesn’t work just by you saying it. According to multiple sources, the government clearly didn’t want to fund commercial internet and largely backed out during the 90s.

The capitalist part is replaceable and unnecessary.

It doesn’t matter if you think it’s replaceable, I can make that claim too. What matters is what actually happened in reality.

How am I speculating when my argument is based on reality?

And I never said that they invented the internet.

already clarified here