MEtrINeS

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[–] MEtrINeS@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 21 hours ago (1 children)

You know the answer and still ask?

WTF are you talking about? I didn't ask anything. I was trying to help the fellow that said he couldn't download shit from scenep2p while he could from other networks.

[–] MEtrINeS@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 23 hours ago (3 children)

But you are not the OP that complained about never getting anything from the bots 😏

[–] MEtrINeS@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 1 day ago (5 children)

I have heard of passive and active DCC but not this.

Well... it's the same thing.

An active bot will initiate the connection, a passive will wait for you to connect. If you are under NAT then the active bot won't be able to connect to start the transfer and the transfer will just die without you knowing.

The passive bots are identified with a 'p' in the name. Usually between pipes: |p|

Unfortunately more and more channels don't indicate if the bots are passive or active. This fucks up the user experience, specially if you are in queue for hours and then the transfer fails. I stopped using xdcc because of this. There are still some good channels though...

Try to use a passive bot and see if it helps.

[–] MEtrINeS@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 3 days ago (7 children)

Passive vs active bots? I stopped using xdcc because nowadays lots of networks stopped using the right naming for passive/active bots. However in scenep2p the bots seems to be well named.

[–] MEtrINeS@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

Its hashes use an outdated algorithm.

It's good enough for file transfer. Two different files having the same MD4 hash does not mean their blocks will also match block-for-block for AICH. Matching block by block is not a trivial task. This is not done by a guy in a bedroom. If an actor has this capacity, and it's after you, then you should be concerned about other stuff than your downloads,

Torrent files are more complete and reliable that e2k links.

I have no idea what do you mean with more complete.

Speed is also way better on bittorrent nowadays

I can reach the same speeds with emule (if the file has enough seeds). And i can reach them faster on emule - but it is probably because i already have a lots of upload credits in emule vs using a public torrent with thousands of seeds.

Also BitTorrent is better at avoiding cluster on your router. E2k peers will hit your router for apparently unknown reasons all the time even if you are not sharing anything.

I have no idea what you are talking about. Never had issues.

There’s reasons why people moved away from it.

People moved away from it, when razorback2 server got shutdown and the admins got arrested. Not because of protocol issues. BitTorrent is also able to attract new users more easily because it is more forgiving to leechers (Long-term credits vs immediate reciprocity)

[–] MEtrINeS@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago)

For the end user: it's a program with everything included. You don't need to visit any website to find files to download. You can search directly what other people are sharing and download from it.

Now the client evolved since it first appeared but has maintained compability.

Initially you need to connect to a server that would list the files people connected to that server were sharing, then they added a DHT and now you don't need to use those servers. However people still use them mainly because the search is faster.

Please note that sharing is very easy. Just select a folder and you are sharing whatever is in that folder. This creates a lot content to share, but also the quality might not be good. For good quality it's better to have the files curated and for that i recommend to use a community that shares ed2k links (they are like magnet links) for the good and quality stuff (similar to use piratebay vs a private tracker - on pirate bay you might not get the best of whatever you want)

[–] MEtrINeS@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago)

So instead of torrents, which are shared between each peer without a centralizing server, eD2K needs thoose servers.

The servers just index the files people are sharing. Basically what you are saying is the same as saying that In the torrent world you also need to use a server (the tracker).

The same way you can search the mesh directly in bittorrent, you can use KAD in emule to search for files. No server required.

[–] MEtrINeS@lemmy.dbzer0.com 7 points 4 days ago (2 children)

As a protocol is worse in everyway that BitTorrent.

No it is not. Please don't talk about shit you don't know. If anything it was too ahead of the time since the internet speeds available at the time were crap (for example compare the emule's 9MiB block with the original 512KiB from bittorrent), and also it was the first one to bring almost all the concepts that bittorrent uses.

People complain about the lowid, but at the same time they want to run it without opening ports to external connections like they do for bittorrent. Fortunately there's already a emule mod (emuleai) that allows lowid to lowid. Hopefully amule will follow it soon.

[–] MEtrINeS@lemmy.dbzer0.com 8 points 2 weeks ago

Thanks! It's very hard to find the protocol info.