Nexus

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[โ€“] Nexus@infosec.pub 1 points 21 hours ago

I see. Valve's Android virtualisation is called "Lepton" and it's a fork of Waydroid.

I wonder where they're going with this. I know Valve is a game platform. From that I suspect that they will use Lepton to bypass the Google Play ecosystem and have their own Android Lepton Play store.

But wouldn't it just be Android games on Linux, and not other apps?

[โ€“] Nexus@infosec.pub 5 points 6 days ago (1 children)

But, wouldn't we (or you) miss the Android apps? Interesting though if we could make that happen.

I think our best chance to have less influence from Google would be legislation from the EU. (Government of France ๐Ÿ‡ซ๐Ÿ‡ท is based: they're going Linux).

[โ€“] Nexus@infosec.pub 12 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago) (2 children)

I read on the keepandroidopen github that the "advanced flow" (for "side-loading") is delivered through Google Play Services, not the Android OS, meaning Google can modify, restrict, or remove it at any time without an OS update and without any user consent.

So, yes, I think you're right, GrapheneOS, PostmarketOS, /e/OS and the likes would be safe (for now) since they don't have the "Google Play Services". I read MicroG is a way to get core functionalities of the Play Services API.

For Linux phone, the Jolla phone has peeked my interest. But I would be missing Android apps, unless there is virtualization to run those??

[โ€“] Nexus@infosec.pub 5 points 6 days ago

If you find spirit, you can complain to your competent authorities in your region: https://keepandroidopen.org/cta/#consumers

[โ€“] Nexus@infosec.pub 2 points 6 days ago (1 children)

So, in this case a Linux phone would be best?

Anyway, I'll get a phone with a different OS than Google Android. But I'm not sure about Linux yet. I like my Android FOSS apps.

[โ€“] Nexus@infosec.pub 17 points 6 days ago (2 children)

Thanks. I will do those things.๐Ÿ’ช

In addition to GrapheneOS (Motorola/ Google Pixel), I was considering brands made in the EU: Jolla phone with Linux or FairPhone with eOS.

[โ€“] Nexus@infosec.pub 7 points 6 days ago

And here there's a list of regulators to which you can complain: https://keepandroidopen.org/cta/#consumers

[โ€“] Nexus@infosec.pub 3 points 6 days ago

So sad. Hmm, a different OS? PostmarketOS? eOS? Try if those support your device.

 

cross-posted from: https://infosec.pub/post/46445602

Is this still going to happen? What can we do?

 

Is this still going to happen? What can we do?

Edit: Complain to your competent authorities here: https://keepandroidopen.org/cta/#consumers

[โ€“] Nexus@infosec.pub 1 points 6 days ago (1 children)

Also, I checked it months ago. I found it dodgy. The owner has several companies registered in the Estonian business register.

I don't recall exactly what I found that was dodgy, I just remember it was. I didn't trust using the email services. Better use more conventional services like Proton or Tuta.