I don’t think you understand the fact that the DMA allows fines of up to 20% of a company’s global total turnover for repeated infractions.
And how many times has that happened?
None? Great, we're on the same page now.
Saik0Shinigami
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The only mechanism of "enforcement" that the EU is levying is fees/fines. M$ can absorb a large amount of fees/fines pretty readily if it means complete market capture.
There is no "force" here when it's just the "cost of doing business".
The EU isn't raiding M$'s headquarters and capturing board members/C-suites. There is no "force".
There’s also Wix for very simple page builds.
Your in self hosting community... You can't build in Wix and selfhost. Wix relies on their infrastructure always being present.
I currently live in the US... so it's not directly come up for me. But it's something I've been looking into here and there because I am interested in buying property and working in my other country. Part of that is driven by my desire to interact with the majority of my family more.
My understanding is that there are firms that do it. It's the same process as most other taxes though except you can claim a couple other forms and need to declare a few additional items. I tend to do my own taxes now and get by just fine, a couple extra forms I'd likely just hire a firm to do them 1 or 2 times and use that as reference for the future personally. Taxes in general is pretty easy for most people as long as you have a reference/guide and don't do weird stuff IMO.
For renouncement I think you only have to show that you've filed taxes for the past 5 years... and as long as you're not some uber wealthy person there isn't an expat cost (I think it's like 800k on all assets? or something like that). The fee was something like $2k as well. It's not a crazy hard process to my understanding, but I could be missing a part.
This isn't quite true. You pay the difference of whatever local tax would cover. And foreign earned income exclusion is massive...(https://www.irs.gov/individuals/international-taxpayers/foreign-earned-income-exclusion)... So even if you make 200k, you can exclude ~120k of it, and then the remaining 80k would have your local taxes deducted from it as well. You end up finding out that most people pay virtually nothing.
And if you don't intend on returning to the USA at all, there's not a lot of enforcement that can happen. The worst effect is that you can't renew your passport at a consulate from what I've seen.
I'm a dual citizen so I end up researching these weird topics a lot...
If your neighbour can also get symmetrical internet with a residential contract, then that would be the better example to prove his point wrong.
Sure, but I don't get their bill now do I?
A business contract is not a good comparison because they usually are symmetrical for a premium price regardless of the quality of the residential internet in your area.
Which was the point of me bringing it up... my price is likely higher than my neighbor. But I know that the same speeds are available. Symmetric.
Once again though... Without more information we can't actually compare but at face value... I pay 5.89 times for for presumably 8-80 times more speed. EVEN ON MY BUSINESS CONTRACT. Hard to say that their service is categorically better than mine...
He provided details about his non-business internet being symmetrical and YOU compared it to your business contract line, that’s literally how it started.
To my residential house... of which my neighbor can get the same service, under a residential contract. Also they didn't say if their internet was residential or not.
The cost is to prove that Americans do not have easy access to the same level of internet his country has, which is his main point. You needed to purchase a business line to have it symmetrical, which is not accessible to the everyone.
No. My neighbor can also get 8/8, under a different SLA as residential. I only provided "under business contract" because that changes the price.
Just because you can pay 100 times the cost of healthcare in European countries to get high quality heathcare in America, it doesn’t mean the average American can afford to go to the hospital or that your healthcare system is just as good. The same thing applies to your internet.
You're not making a good look for your stance when you over hyperbolize the situation. I pay 5.89 times more... for what could be 8-80 times more speed. We don't know because THERE IS NOT ENOUGH INFORMATION.
There are. You have to apply for them. Which it's also entirely possible that the mother is currently doing.
You need to scroll up and pay attention.
Them:
My ISP offers symmetrical [...] glad I'm not American
Me:
As someone living in America, I have great internet
Them:
Me:
Them:
<makes a comparison without qualifying anything about the comparison, claiming theirs to be superior>
Me:
They provided no details at all... this whole engagement. We still don't actually know what speeds they even get for their mere 28USD. Could be 100mbps and it would be significantly worse by ever metric than my 8gbps. I can't compare my service to something that we have no details for.
https://storage.courtlistener.com/recap/gov.uscourts.lawd.210781/gov.uscourts.lawd.210781.1.0.pdf
and
https://storage.courtlistener.com/recap/gov.uscourts.lawd.210781/gov.uscourts.lawd.210781.6.0_3.pdf
Indeed. If you read the actual response... no deportation occurred for the 2 year old.
From the petitioner's council:
The officer overheard and said that V.M.L. would not be deported and explained that V.M.L.’s mother and sister had deportation orders.
From ICE:
Should her mother decide to allow Petitioner Mack and the purported father to take custody of V.M.L., V.M.L. is not prohibited from entering the United States.
The claim is that the father didn't identify himself (likely because of his own immigration status), so they couldn't release child to him. Since he didn't want to identify himself, any claim that the mother wanted to take the child with her must be held, no "friend" can take custody at that point. The only identified parent isn't consenting.
It looks like there was an exhibit referenced in the ICE response document. That exhibit is likely the letter they reference that the mother wrote.
It's a shit situation... It's not good in the slightest, but it isn't "American Citizen deported".
Mother can easily state that she would like to give custody to the petitioning "friend" and V.M.L. can return.
https://www.pinsentmasons.com/out-law/news/first-fines-issued-eu-digital-markets-act
Yes... it's only been 1.1 months since they've first issued fines under the DMA... What a long and litigated history! Definitely shows what you claim it does over it *checks notes* 2 issued fines ever.
Funny part is, DMA has been law since MAY 2023. So in 2 years... it issued 2 fines ever... less than 2 months ago.
But right! NO COMPANY EVER DARES IGNORE IT!
LMFAO. Right.
https://www.theverge.com/news/627522/apple-meta-eu-dma-antitrust-fines
Weird... Doesn't sound like the commission even wants to issue fines at all!