Samsuma

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[–] Samsuma@lemmy.ml 15 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

They did try their darndest on Africa actually..... but they haplessly tripped and accidentally hit their head into IMF debt trapping them, their left hand landed straight onto the detonation button for launching NATO bombs directed at certain places, their right hand somehow found itself overthrowing leaders and vassalizing states and destabilizing them, causing perpetual wars to continue to be perpetual, all in the midst of their fall.

Poor them :((((.... sure hope that their successor won't "accidentally" do the same to them.

[–] Samsuma@lemmy.ml 6 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)
[–] Samsuma@lemmy.ml 5 points 4 months ago (1 children)

the left side of the meme:

https://www.elciudadano.com/en/nato-and-its-links-with-nazism/06/23/

not too familiar with the right side tbh

[–] Samsuma@lemmy.ml 6 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Don't weasel your way out and change the subject.

This is your position and this is what I was addressing:

Trump is a cult that dies with him.

This is your justification to that position:

It’s human nature. People are, in general, not different than their tribal ancestors from 300,000 years ago

You are suggesting that we as humans are hardwired to support the most popular individual and that anything eventful that happens is attributed to that one single individual (this is what Great Man Theory is), simply because as a result of evolution and somehow that's compared to tribes that lived 300,000 years ago, when hunting and gathering and grouping up was a necessity to ensure higher chances of survival. None of the links you provided back up that point, the hill you wish to die on, neither does your justification make any sense. I explained that these links only serve to describe and analyze tribes, not prove the Great Man Theory.

But you know what is a death cult?

Liberalism. Liberalism is a death cult. And you're part of it, engaged in it, succumbed to it and running cheerleader for it, because it serves to benefit you, Trump, Biden, Bernie, Rubio, Team Blue, Team Red, the full works.

Human nature, again, is also not scientifically grounded. Any argument mentioning human nature necessitates an actual scientific study on human nature itself, lucky for you, there's no such a thing. Here's another video explaining why it's a thought-terminating cliche.

I don't take it you're a reading type because obviously you did not read any of the sources you linked, otherwise you'd know that none of these actually say anything about human nature in relation to cults or tribes or whatever, so watch these from start to finish, you'd stand to actually learn something, lib

[–] Samsuma@lemmy.ml 10 points 5 months ago (19 children)

1st link is about 4 different types of tribe structures

2nd is about leadership and its relation to tribes

3rd link literally runs counter to your initial point about trump cults being a result of human nature, it actually fucking argues that a society is shaped by material conditions but without using the term "material conditions":

By the same logic, "Trump cultists", as you refer to them, do not stray far from your average liberal because it's also within the liberals' human nature to be apathetic towards brown kids, women and unarmed men across the planet to explode into pieces, not because trump supporters and liberals that don't like trump optics have a vested interest in maintaining status quo..

See how ridiculous that sounds?

Nobody fucking argues this way because human nature isn't something that's scientifically grounded, but rather it's a metaphysical expression of our being weaponized by libs like you.

If you're going to roleplay being an intellectual, at least do a better act of reading the stuff that you cite in relation to the points you make, otherwise @BrainInABox@lemmy.ml might bite 👻.

[–] Samsuma@lemmy.ml 7 points 5 months ago

the only thing we could take away from this insight of yours is that it's okay for westoids to balkanize literally everywhere else that isn't in the Global North.

[–] Samsuma@lemmy.ml 0 points 5 months ago

Could you provide an explanation as to how @jackeroni's memes are inaccurate? Which ones?

[–] Samsuma@lemmy.ml 2 points 5 months ago
[–] Samsuma@lemmy.ml 4 points 5 months ago (4 children)

of course they did, anything so much as hints at providing welfare services that isn't born out of imperialism is a threat to their imperialism... so they needed to make an example out of Libyans by turning it into a sex slave trading hub.

يلعن شكلهم

[–] Samsuma@lemmy.ml 8 points 5 months ago (6 children)

Libya too before 2011 (except the literacy rate was recorded to be 89 to 99% at one point)!

not to mention the fact that that the "developed" countries depend heavily on the exploitation of the Global South to provide free/universal healthcare, yes European reader reading this, this includes Finland and no Poland isn't excluded either.

[–] Samsuma@lemmy.ml 9 points 5 months ago

they really smeared their libbiness by putting the lib in Libya

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