StonksDiff13

Ya. The Bernie kind. Incredible isn't it?

I truly love New Zealand's system by the way. It's a shining example in the face of the rest of the world's failure.

Here's a market that I feel is very relevant for a "good system."

https://hdr.undp.org/inequality-adjusted-human-development-index#/indicies/IHDI

Do you agree?

Because I learned China doesn't report accurate numbers all the time. They have state controlled media since the 40s. I'm a real life person who studied China, lived there, learned from natives about what is really going on. Put yourself in my shoes. Hypothetically, how could you explain this experience differently?

Yes. China has many expats. The information was revealed to the world and the Chinese government's response? Control the Internet, all foreign media, all history books, etc.

These are extremely well known topics across the globe. Don't take my word for it lol.

https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC1127087/

https://www.britannica.com/event/Tiananmen-Square-incident

https://ieres.elliott.gwu.edu/project/chinas-genocide-against-uyghurs/

https://www.columbia.edu/~qc2218/history.html

Explain to me how killing 30-50 million people is acceptable in this shining example of socialism. How about genocide? Massacre? What about Tibet? What about the impending invasion in Taiwan? Are these the everyday normal citizens taking their "control" over their system and saying GO FUCKING LEAVE A TRAIL OF BLOOD HERE AND HERE AND HERE?

It's very very easy to point out that China has a brutal and immoral system with very common sense examples.

I just prefer my personal version because my memories of China were wonderful. As many Chinese visiting the US would agree. But the truth is obvious.

You want to know who taught me about these things? My Chinese native guide that I traveled with to Tibet, Beijing, and all over rural / urban areas inbetween.

But I guess this real person talking to you with actual experience will just disappear in your thoughts as a nothingburger.

Fine. Tragic, but fine.

Ah it seems you've failed to keep your composure as well. Why would anyone take you seriously?

You think this angry, name calling, emotional person is schooling me? I'm a progressive on paper, the Bernie Sanders kind and they're calling me a Nazi. I'm shocked people would give this type of person a second of thought.

Feel free to ask them about Mao "accidentally" killing 30-50 million people with STARVATION in the name of their oh so beautiful system.

What about throwing musicians and professors in prison for speaking out against the overbearing government?

How about Tiananmen Square?

Does this person even know what these events are? The government actively covers it up to this day. The millennial generation doesn't even know what these are because it's forbidden.

Absolutely not true. I lived among these people not long ago. To say "everyone has electricity" is simply false. That's not true of any country.... sadly.

Less than 12 years ago.

How about 30-50 million dead from starvation while trying to implement communism under Mao? How about Tiananmen Square?

Do you realize that the government punishes those who bring it up and leave it out of the history books for the younger generations?

What about Uyghur genocide?

You can walk around the campus of a Chinese university, ask person after person about the Tiananmen Square massacre and no one knows what the hell you're talking about.

You think this is the shining example of socialism that should be implemented across the globe?

No thank you.

You don't think the CCP* is hiding history from their people? It's ironic you think I'm confidentially incorrect when I know for a fact you are. I don't see this as an argument at all. This is me playing teacher to you so you can go research the many topics covered here that you don't seem to understand. My original argument is simple. China's system sucks. The US system sucks.

To think you can even define China's system as socialism is ridiculous. No modern super power has an economy or government that abides by a single definition.

It is you and others here who have tried to change the argument to something you think you understand to try to "win." It's honestly exhausting. I've rewritten my thesis about 20 times and it's still being ignored.

The irony: I like socialism. You people are simply too caught up in your own ego or something to let that sink in.