bearboiblake

Democrats will never listen to the left. They are a party by, and for, the ruling class.

I know it feels unlikely that we can achieve change through revolution, but that's how capitalism wins, by making you feel like it is impossible to defeat.

I'm not appealing to authority at all, I was just explaining that I was a leftist because your comment seemed to suggest I was encouraging people to "give up", which is the exact opposite of what I want. I want people to get involved in direct action, civil resistance, and yes, acts of sabotage against the regime.

I am firmly of the opinion that violence never makes anything better, but I completely understand why people, even leftists, advocate for violence. I don't think they're fake, or bots, I just think they are leftists who have been socialised in our mainstream media environment which teaches us that violence is a solution to our problems.

I think your response was a bit silly, and jumped to a lot of conclusions, but it didn't hurt my feelings. I want to continue to reiterate that reforms to capitalism merely prolong it, and misuses the energy of activists which could be far better spent on actually unionizing, organizing, building solidarity, and direct action.

The party will never listen to them, that's the entire point behind my whole argument. Voting isn't going to get us out of this mess. We need to organize the working class, build solidarity, and build a people-powered movement to abolish capitalism.

Here's a scenario. Imagine there's a cop, who just had a divorce.

That cop will, later today, respond to a schizophrenic person in distress. The cop is armed.

You get the opportunity to tell that cop one thing before they go to respond to that call.

You can either say:

"Fuck you, pig scum, I'm glad your wife divorced you, you fucking deserve it, burn in hell"

Or you can say:

"I'm sorry to hear that your wife left you, did she give you any reasons why?"

Which of these responses is more likely to lead to a disabled person getting fucking murdered by an angry cop?

Are you going to use the right wing and centrists acting like shitheads as an excuse to behave that way yourself?

We should show compassion towards all people who are suffering, instead of reveling in their suffering.

That is the point you are trying to debate, right now.

If you think that it's better to revel in someone's suffering instead of showing compassion, you are enabling fucking fascism. You can "what about" and "well actually" all you want, it's honestly disgraceful.

Yeah, you got me, clearly the only way that someone could disagree with you, is because they're a fake bot shill with a fake account history because that's the only plausible reality in which you could be wrong about something.

There's definitely no way that I spent hours last week arguing against violence in a leftist memes community, because I am clearly a bot.

Give me a break.

I have been trying to talk to you for over half a dozen comments, but you keep treating me like I am some enemy. I totally understand that feeling of seeing the overton window shift towards the right and you are absolutely correct that there are liberal institutions who push that "well, let's be civil, and hear them out" bullshit. That's NOT what I'm saying. That's never been my position, but you keep treating me as though it is.

I'm saying we need to keep pushing back, hard, against the right wing, in any way we can, but the reality is that cruelly dunking on conservatives who are suffering the consequences of their political project doesn't help, and that it is counter-productive to the overall goal of defeating them. That has been my entire point in this entire conversation and it is honestly driving me crazy that you can't engage with it.

How am I mistreating the left?

Okay, now it's clear that you're just arguing with me for the sake of arguing with me. In the long run, I can only hope that my argument sinks in, and you consider acting with more compassion in the future, even if you can't acknowledge in this moment that you were wrong.

Can you explain for how showing compassion for someone means you have to kiss their ass? You keep putting words in my mouth because you want to argue with me. At this point I am beginning to wonder if you're a fascist just pretending not to understand this point to waste my time.

I am a leftist and I am advocating, as always, for solidarity across the working class, unionizing, getting organized, and participating in direct action. I encourage collective acts of sabotage and resistance against the authoritarian regime.

You can believe in false hope, or accept the reality of your situation and work towards goals which actually have a chance of succeeding, it's up to you.

Edit: To get involved in a real action that might actually improve our situation, join the IWW.