caboose2006

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[โ€“] caboose2006@lemmy.world 1 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Chinese people seem way more informed about current events? ๐Ÿคฃ๐Ÿคฃ๐Ÿคฃ๐Ÿ˜‚๐Ÿคฃ๐Ÿ˜‚. That's gonna be a no from me dog. Clearly you've never talked to the average Chinese person. There are vast swathes of current events and information they've never even heard about. They're well informed about the topics that make it past the censors, for sure. My god you're just as misinformed as everyone else. The only difference is your misinformation is "china good" misinformation. Which is sad, there are a lot of things to point at in china that are legitimate "China good". Like fast, cheap/free and effective healthcare. The best in the world high speed rail. The closest to a meritocratic education system I've seen or heard of. Virtually zero homelessness. But when it comes to censorship, nah, they're wayyyyy worse. Yeah, the west can be better than china then some things. It's okay buddy, you can be objective you know

[โ€“] caboose2006@lemmy.world 1 points 3 days ago (3 children)

Most Chinese don't have access to a VPN. Do you need a VPN to access that information? The fact that there is an extra step to access the information means that china is more censored by default. There's also the fact that at certain times of year all consumer VPNs are blocked (June 4th is one of those dates, oddly enough)

Yes, I've heard of shadow banning. The censorship in China is still worse. I'm not saying censorship doesn't happen in the west. I am saying it is much more widespread, oppressive, and complete in China. No amount of you crying is going to change that fact.

[โ€“] caboose2006@lemmy.world -3 points 4 days ago (5 children)

Yes, there is censorship. But the information is there if you search for it. The fact that you're typing the words "genocide in Palestine" and I am reading those words pretty clearly demonstrates that the level of censorship in the west is no where near the level of censorship in China. If the CCPs position is "Israel has a right to defend itself" you would never even know there's a conflict in Gaza.

[โ€“] caboose2006@lemmy.world 0 points 4 days ago

And you searched this inside China did you? What are you not getting? Even Chinese search engines inside China show different information then Chinese search engines outside china. It's a walled garden. You are out of your depth here. Go to bed.

[โ€“] caboose2006@lemmy.world -3 points 4 days ago

Angry? Me thinks he projects too much. I lived there. I base my opinion on first hand experience. So the fact that you haven't means your basing your experience on something that somebody else WANTS you to think. You're an actual sheep.

[โ€“] caboose2006@lemmy.world -4 points 4 days ago (2 children)

So no. So it's impossible for you to really make an accurate comparison. So your opinion here is literally worthless.

[โ€“] caboose2006@lemmy.world -1 points 4 days ago (2 children)

Not all internet outside of China is Western. I'll give you an example. My wife was a cross cultural communications teacher in China. She had her students pick countries outside of Asia to do a cultural report on. One student picked Poland for whatever reason. The Chinese internet, other than here is Poland on a map, it has this many people, and it's capital is Warsaw, had no other information, Literally nothing else.

So when you ask why they would need access it's because they deserve to be informed about the world around them. There is waayyyyyyy more to the internet than "fascist propaganda".

They also can't access the absolutely braindead remarks you're saying right now. Isn't that a travesty?

[โ€“] caboose2006@lemmy.world 0 points 4 days ago (4 children)

Stop with the pedantic BS. MOST do not use VPNs to get around censorship because MOST do not have a VPN. So again, why do the Chinese need a VPN to access the wider internet?

And there's more to the internet to social media.

[โ€“] caboose2006@lemmy.world 0 points 4 days ago (4 children)

So you've never lived there?

[โ€“] caboose2006@lemmy.world -3 points 4 days ago (6 children)

Yes, and if you're getting a 100% Rosey picture of China and the CCP guess what? It's just different propaganda. There's good and bad things about China. For me bad things outweighed the good.

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