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[–] liv@lemmy.nz 2 points 9 months ago (11 children)

Ah, that makes sense and it tracks. If you ever want to work somewhere with little accountability, that would probably be a good place!

Speaking of govt systems do you know anything about RealMe? It sort of looks like they are phasing it out?

[–] liv@lemmy.nz 3 points 9 months ago (24 children)

Hopefully some of them survive. They sound so amazing.

Thanks for the book rec - good timing! I only just read Children of Time a few weeks ago - didn't realise the sequel was going to be about octopuses, thought it was just going to be spiders in space! @Dave@lemmy.nz has Children of Time on reading list too.

[–] liv@lemmy.nz 2 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (2 children)

I think Pete is Sindhu's piano teacher and Bas was maybe behind Basil Juice? Not sure how music producers (Handsome Dexter etc) fit in.

Norman Pain's (from Northern Boys) solo stuff is really good too. Sonnet especially.

[–] liv@lemmy.nz 3 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (26 children)

Thank you so much; I hadn't heard about that (out of the octopus loop). I can't find it now but I wonder if the instances I mentioned of wild octopuses learning were somehow related to those - if memory serves it was somewhere off the coast of California so some habitat overlap.

Wow, the LPSO have a lot of evolutionary potential. If their environmental conditions are right who knows what will happen. I don't mean to sound disloyal to my species but if humans do succeed in dragging themselves back into the stone age it might be time for the octopusses to shine. An Octipodean Era!

[–] liv@lemmy.nz 2 points 9 months ago (1 children)

There's still time!

[–] liv@lemmy.nz 2 points 9 months ago (13 children)

Interesting because they have a terrible privacy culture and leak like crazy - I say this not just because of their known incidents but also from personal experience.

I wonder if it's because their systems are so strict they tend to just work outside them? (a bit like the paradox where if a penalty for a crime is too draconian you end up with more of the crime due to reluctance to report).

Hopefully if they get a new system it will be one all their staff can use properly.

[–] liv@lemmy.nz 2 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (4 children)

The Northern Boys record label is Singhusworld which is actually a dairy/cornershop that got into music to make money to save the dairy from being shut down after it sold this home made drink (nonalcoholic). Their whole online footprint is priceless.

If you like Northern Boys you might like these gangster guys

[–] liv@lemmy.nz 5 points 9 months ago (31 children)

Well unfortunately no, this is the tragedy of the octopuses - they don't know their parents and grandparents. Their mothers die when they are born and their fathers are absent, and they are solitary.

Their only chance at learning is social or observational learning from peers but because of the territory arrangements even that doesn't happen a lot as far as we know, though scientists have observed some younger octopuses learning from watching older ones from a distance.

Octopuses are incredibly smart. They can infer from context, make generalizations, spatially imagine objects, and even show altruism. If only they could do what you said and pass on knowledge the world would be their oyster!

[–] liv@lemmy.nz 3 points 9 months ago

Totally. Great video too. 3:20 is so powerful.

[–] liv@lemmy.nz 4 points 9 months ago (33 children)

I love this. I wonder what it was doing...

..maybe it is an explorer. I wish octopuses were able to communicate more knowledge intergenerationally. It feels like they don't currently get the most out of their intellects.

[–] liv@lemmy.nz 3 points 9 months ago

I wish social policy were driven by results and best practice instead of these weird ideological gestures.

[–] liv@lemmy.nz 3 points 9 months ago

Especially one that's presented normally.

Occasionally you see articles where they present a beneficiary with a point of view like complaining about not being able to afford icecream, which is disappointing because it obscures more pressing problems like not being able to afford green veges or medications.

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