if the world is deterministic, ethics don't exist.
nsrxn
if your position is that professional ethicists are wrong, and we shouldn't entertain their stance, I don't see how you're any different from a quack or theologian.
it's highly relevant to your erroneous claim
"no one should entertain people who value virtue over consequence."
the experts in the field just disagree with this stance.
there is a survey of philosophers that shows what I said is true
more professional philosophers identify as deontologists than any other ethical system
i just searched for it as a logged-in user.
i also subscribed to the community to keep getting the posts/comments
you may just need to sign up for the instance. i tried searching for it in a private tab at mstdn.social and it wouldn't populate
damn
it shows the full thread here

if no one chooses their own mind, why are you trying to convince me of anything. it's completely absurd.