That is probably the question to ask before "is it good"
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I look forward to someone using my posts as evidence people can do things automatically without an internal monologue. Glad we have a ranged weapons user in the chat since I mainly miscast spells. I considered that example might be weak, since I don't hit things with projectiles (or miss them). Comparing it to a cat pouncing is a good rebuttal, but I think that is melee enough that you could do it totally unconsciously. To point to actual blindsight experiments, people were able to point at or move their eyes towards a hand jutted towards them. I shouldn't even guess about this, but isn't that just for protecting the face, especially the eyes from pokes and gravel? To hit a living creature with a sling you do better to consider where it wants to go, you could intuit it is going to land on a branch and nail it. To dodge a falling rock you only need to judge basic physics. But again yeah none of that is really falling under why you hunt, practices like deciding to limit what you go for, cultivate foods en masse like Black Soil in the Amazon. Do you think a better question would be if a cat could hunt better with a theory of mind for a mouse? Do you think a STEM student could study philosophy on the side better if he got hit by a fast rock?
No but seriously, the better example was probably the one I came up with while misreading another guy's response. Which is you need human writing and culture to manage food storage and production (not entirely strictly as I have read in some anthropology books that humans developed debt systems well before writing, but spreadsheets make that scalable). Unless you are a nonsentient computing blob of orbs in the outer solar system and you don't need a temple granary at all. Why were there vampires in that book. No really I'm going to bed now you guys are safe.
I wonder if crows are able to keep track of my bread balance sheet or it's more of a vibe system.
Distinct thing from consciousness and sapience. I am conflicted about, it since there doesn't seem to be a hard divide between human and animal consciousness, but that has been used to create pseudoscientific justifications for racism. Even if we see some animals on a track that could eventually lead somewhere like this, they're only just getting started. I said consciousness a few times where I should have said human consciousness. I am the one yammering, so by all means go ahead. 🌠🛌
Saying we now need rizz and romance wouldn't be a good counter to evopsych (no need to elaborate on the crimes of this field probably) types saying human consciousness becoming necessary for reproduction has turned it into a cancer. It makes more sense when you see the Epstein emails where they're talking about genetically engineering people to be incapable of love. Guy on Adderall who wanted to turn every worker into a drone was choosing who got funding for this kind of writing.
(I'm agreeing here if that's not apparent idk)
How would we have invented spreadsheets without human consciousness and writing? You need those to manage the grain!
If nobody has the grain who cares who has rizz or not they're goners
It is very undialectical framing but there is a charlimit in title. I almost started yammering about crows using tools but also just enjoying pranks and experimenting with their environment. I think saying stuff like consciousness is just slowing us down is reducing it to its drawbacks.
Yes of course I'm stoned. I'm doing the laundry on a Saturday evening, I have no plans. Here, let me rephrase the title: how much do you hate Richard Dawkins?
Weird how people downvoted you for something so nonchalant. I agree, I saw people making fun of her translation, but this article makes me want to check it out. Roderic Day on twitter has also been making a stand for this article if you want to see some high-level criticism of criticism of media criticism
I wonder which countries don't have AI labs that do this 🤔 ah well I guess we just have to reject the new tech completely since there is no way of knowing
Dawg that is simply not what God means in this question. I failed to communicate with anyone in this thread. We'll come back to this later after I pass this quarter, literally. I currently have literally 120% in my classes so consider yourselves all due for more confusion.
Ah well, I don't know what I expected. Spinoza could have been ripped apart in the streets for articulating this correctly.
Not singapore but I am very serious about not allowing them to disgrace themselves in any way abroad. Too used to visiting hitler countries. Could be bad. Im nervous
Oh god they can't smell damn near anything good point
STOP TRYING TO REVIVE OBAMA!!!!! LIVE YOUR FUCKING LIFE AND GET OUT!!!