yeahiknow3

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[–] yeahiknow3@lemmy.dbzer0.com 5 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

Justifying something — a law, for example, or the civic organization of a nation state — requires a moral standard. For example, laws against slavery can be justified by pointing to harms or rights violations (or whatever framework you have for making ethical judgements). Most people rely on their intuitions, but ethics is a formal system — a bit like mathematics, actually. Such a system has to be consistent to be meaningful (this is called the principle of explosion).

Anyway, many such normative systems have been proposed. Utilitarianism, deontology, and virtue ethics are broad examples.

None of these contains a mechanism to justify a governing body’s criminalization of drugs.

Specifically,

  1. You can’t point to harms, since the harm would be a personal one, and governments have no moral standing to prevent you from harming yourself.
  2. You can’t point to improved social order, since empirical evidence demonstrates that drug prohibitions cause far more social disorder and criminality (for example, by creating cartels).

Etcetera.

[–] yeahiknow3@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (2 children)

You think that artificially enriched plutonium should also freely be available

“Enriched plutonium” is not a drug. But I imagine if you had a magical “drug” whose ingestion could make you explode in a mini-Chernobyl, then its access should be restricted.

Again, there is no coherent moral framework to justify criminalizing your use of (ordinary) drugs, medical or otherwise. No arguments exist in defense of this prohibition. It’s a rights violation that does nothing to help victims or protect communities, and in fact makes the situation worse for everyone.

If you have such an argument, please publish it in one of the philosophy journals. There’s no Nobel prize for philosophy, but a bunch of fusty academics will be very impressed with you.

[–] yeahiknow3@lemmy.dbzer0.com 9 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (17 children)

Daily reminder that there is no coherent normative framework according to which a government has the right to criminalize your access to or use of drugs, medical or otherwise.

[–] yeahiknow3@lemmy.dbzer0.com 14 points 1 week ago

A Ukrainian with pro-Ukrainian views? Outrageous. A Russian with pro-Russian views, even more outrageous.

[–] yeahiknow3@lemmy.dbzer0.com 0 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (2 children)

Either that or you’re a crypto-nationalist offended that I insulted your shitty culture.

[–] yeahiknow3@lemmy.dbzer0.com 4 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

They’re the same race as me. Their cultures are fascistic and oppressive and I’d rather die than go back. Not that American culture is that much better.

[–] yeahiknow3@lemmy.dbzer0.com -2 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (4 children)

They’re bigoted against white fascists. That’s a new one.

[–] yeahiknow3@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

Proximity to Russia is strongly correlated with fascist politics. Hence Trump’s appeal. That’s not a coincidence.

[–] yeahiknow3@lemmy.dbzer0.com 4 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (7 children)

I’d like to echo what others have said about Poland not being that bad.

Southeastern Europe is a lot worse. They were under occupation by the Turks for 500 years, then by Russia for half a century. As someone raised in that region, I would have to think long and hard to come up with anything positive to say about Russian or Turkish influence.

[–] yeahiknow3@lemmy.dbzer0.com 15 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (33 children)

No clue why you’re being downvoted. I grew up in Eastern Europe. It’s a shithole of misogyny and pseudo-masculinity, like an infection by proximity with Russia and Turkey.

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