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Jack Dorsey, co-founder of Twitter (now X) and Square (now Block), sparked a weekend’s worth of debate around intellectual property, patents, and copyright, with a characteristically terse post declaring, “delete all IP law.”

X’s current owner Elon Musk quickly replied, “I agree.”

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[–] athairmor@lemmy.world 63 points 1 week ago (14 children)

This isn’t as forward thinking as you’d want it to be.

For as much as they are abused, “IP laws” protect small and individual inventors, writers, composers, etc.

With no patent, copyright or trademark protections the billionaires will own or bury everything.

What is needed is to bring the laws back to their intended purpose.

[–] masterspace@lemmy.ca 25 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (6 children)

Fundamentally it should be an attribution and reward system, whereas currently it's a false scarcity system.

Everyone should be able to use everything, but you should be required to attribute your source material. If you do, the song / work etc should get an extra licensing fee per play. That way you're always encouraged to provide attribution since you don't lose money from it, and wholly original works will be cheaper and thus more desirable.

Not dissimilar to how song sampling works today but without all the manual negotiation for every license.

And if you fail to provide attribution you get hit with appropriate penalties.

[–] HakFoo@lemmy.sdf.org 3 points 1 week ago (5 children)

The problem with attribution is the difficulty of 1000% accurate compliance.

If you grab 100 lines of code from a repository, or five paragraphs from a story, there's probably a claim there. If you grab a single word, there's probably not. But in the middle, there's a paralysis of uncertainty-- is n lines similar enough to create liability? Can you remember where you saw what reliably? You end up with a bias towards "over-attribution" and it becomes difficult to pare it back. Does everything need a full Git-style commit history? Are we forever stuck keeping a credit on a project because it's difficult to prove you've fully scrubbed their contributions?

Focus on how we pay artists (ideally lush grants) and forget about credit. Maybe establish a culture where it's voluntary and acceptable-- that people feel that they're allowed to cite their raw materials, and reuse doesn't make the work lesser-- but don't try to use the courts to force people to try to remember and track where they saw something when they just want to create, or it creates a hostile environment.

[–] BrianTheeBiscuiteer@lemmy.world 3 points 1 week ago (1 children)

It's not an easy system but it doesn't seem any more arduous to say "you can copy X for a fee" vs "you can't copy X at all."

[–] HakFoo@lemmy.sdf.org 1 points 1 week ago

It's easier just to price in the fee than having to shut down or retool a project.

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