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Mozilla is in a tricky position. It contains both a nonprofit organization dedicated to making the internet a better place for everyone, and a for-profit arm dedicated to, you know, making money. In the best of times, these things feed each other: The company makes great products that advance its goals for the web, and the nonprofit gets to both advocate for a better web and show people what it looks like. But these are not the best of times. Mozilla has spent the last couple of years implementing layoffs and restructuring, attempting to explain how it can fight for privacy and openness when Google pays most of its bills, while trying to find its place in an increasingly frothy AI landscape.

Fun times to be the new Mozilla CEO, right? But when I put all that to Anthony Enzor-DeMeo, the company’s just-announced chief executive, he swears he sees opportunity in all the upheaval. “I think what’s actually needed now is a technology company that people can trust,” Enzor-DeMeo says. “What I’ve seen with AI is an erosion of trust.”

Mozilla is not going to train its own giant LLM anytime soon. But there’s still an AI Mode coming to Firefox next year, which Enzor-DeMeo says will offer users their choice of model and product, all in a browser they can understand and from a company they can trust. “We’re not incentivized to push one model or the other,” he says. “So we’re going to try to go to market with multiple models.”

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[–] selokichtli@lemmy.ml 4 points 1 week ago (1 children)

There are Firefox forks to circumvent AI. But even if there weren't, I'd be using GNOME Web before bending to Google's Chromium. If Vivaldi Chromium promises no AI, and LibreWolf Firefox promised the same, why on Earth would I go to Google's camp?

[–] iglou@programming.dev 1 points 1 week ago (2 children)

If your only criterium is the presence of AI, then of course it doesn't matter.

But Firefox has been degrading far before AI was even hyped. Mozilla basically gave up on its development as they lost their market share. Full of bugs, poor implementation of new standards, terrible optimization... That's why I switched to a Chromium based browser. Not because of AI.

[–] super_user_do@feddit.it 1 points 6 days ago

Not only that, Firefox and Firefox-Based browser are at least 2x times slower than any chromium based browser. Vivaldi is not as quick as plain Chrome, but at least it mitigateas the privacy concerns of normal Google Chrome

[–] selokichtli@lemmy.ml 1 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

People keep saying that, but I don't think there are noticeable differences in performance between both engines. Gecko is competitive, the problem, I think, comes from the web developers not bothering to optimize or test under Gecko anymore.

[–] iglou@programming.dev 1 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

I say that as a web developer myself. Gecko has become problematic to work with. It's not the web devs fault that Gecko is now full of odd quirks.

I used to dev for Firefox, then test on Chrome. The amount of times I was looking for a non-existent bug in my code just to realise it works fine on Chrome and it's actually a Gecko bug not respecting a specification was a major factor in my choice to drop Firefox as my daily drive.

And the irony is that one of the best documentations for web specifications is made by Mozilla.

[–] selokichtli@lemmy.ml 1 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

Well, that's you. I'm not having, as I said before, any issues with Gecko, I do have many with Google and any monopoly.

[–] iglou@programming.dev 2 points 1 week ago

I'm not having, as I said before, any issues with Gecko

Good for you!