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Mozilla is in a tricky position. It contains both a nonprofit organization dedicated to making the internet a better place for everyone, and a for-profit arm dedicated to, you know, making money. In the best of times, these things feed each other: The company makes great products that advance its goals for the web, and the nonprofit gets to both advocate for a better web and show people what it looks like. But these are not the best of times. Mozilla has spent the last couple of years implementing layoffs and restructuring, attempting to explain how it can fight for privacy and openness when Google pays most of its bills, while trying to find its place in an increasingly frothy AI landscape.

Fun times to be the new Mozilla CEO, right? But when I put all that to Anthony Enzor-DeMeo, the company’s just-announced chief executive, he swears he sees opportunity in all the upheaval. “I think what’s actually needed now is a technology company that people can trust,” Enzor-DeMeo says. “What I’ve seen with AI is an erosion of trust.”

Mozilla is not going to train its own giant LLM anytime soon. But there’s still an AI Mode coming to Firefox next year, which Enzor-DeMeo says will offer users their choice of model and product, all in a browser they can understand and from a company they can trust. “We’re not incentivized to push one model or the other,” he says. “So we’re going to try to go to market with multiple models.”

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[–] Sunflier@lemmy.world 2 points 6 minutes ago* (last edited 5 minutes ago)

Can it be disabled?

[–] SocialMediaRefugee@lemmy.world 12 points 2 hours ago (1 children)

I'm going to have to go Amish at this rate.

[–] sturmblast@lemmy.world 2 points 1 hour ago (1 children)

Off grid is an easier transition :)

[–] SocialMediaRefugee@lemmy.world 1 points 52 seconds ago

Yah but I like the pies.

will offer users their choice [...] “We’re not incentivized to push one model or the other,” he says. “So we’re going to try to go to market with multiple models.”

it could be worse

[–] Tonava@sopuli.xyz 35 points 9 hours ago (1 children)

Programs are like socks, once they get dirty, you change them. Do these people really not understand how this stuff works? Even giants can fall when enough people switch to other options

[–] sommerset@thelemmy.club 5 points 8 hours ago (10 children)

Oh ya? Where u gonna go? Chrome?

[–] BlameTheAntifa@lemmy.world 4 points 1 hour ago (1 children)
[–] Holytimes@sh.itjust.works 1 points 8 minutes ago

Wouldn't trust waterfox as far as I could throw a bull elephant.

Librefox or fuck even floorp is better then waterfox.

[–] lando55@lemmy.zip 2 points 2 hours ago (1 children)

You could always go Safari, at the rate Apple is going with Ai integration you should be good for... well forever really 🤣

[–] noxypaws@pawb.social 1 points 14 minutes ago

Safari is only available on Apple hardware and operating systems though

[–] sturmblast@lemmy.world 1 points 1 hour ago

There are literally dozens of browser options out there.

[–] Microtonal_Banana@lemmy.zip 11 points 4 hours ago (1 children)
[–] oce@jlai.lu 6 points 3 hours ago (1 children)

Can it survive if Firefox goes down?

[–] sommerset@thelemmy.club 4 points 2 hours ago

Ofc No. But waterfax might disable ai by default.

[–] Tonava@sopuli.xyz 11 points 8 hours ago (2 children)

Hell no. For now just gonna switch to some firefox fork that won't include the AI.

[–] roofuskit@lemmy.world 3 points 5 hours ago (1 children)

Jumping to the dingy tied to the sinking ship.

[–] Tonava@sopuli.xyz 2 points 3 hours ago

Thus the "for now"

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[–] Lyubo@lemmy.ml 4 points 6 hours ago (1 children)
[–] sommerset@thelemmy.club 2 points 5 hours ago (2 children)

Yeah I've heard of it but is it even installable?

[–] Holytimes@sh.itjust.works 1 points 7 minutes ago

It's slated for a early 2026 alpha. So it's actually pretty close.

[–] oce@jlai.lu 3 points 3 hours ago* (last edited 3 hours ago) (1 children)

Ladybird is an open-source web browser developed by the Ladybird Browser Initiative, a nonprofit organization focused on development of the browser.[1] It is licensed under the BSD 2-Clause License.[2] An alpha release is planned in 2026,[3][4] beta release is expected in 2027, and a stable release for general public in 2028.[5] Originally a component of SerenityOS, it is now being developed as a standalone project.[6] The initiative is funded entirely through donations, with Cloudflare, FUTO, Shopify, and 37signals among its sponsors. Ladybird uses a new browser engine called LibWeb that is being created from scratch by the development team. Unlike SerenityOS, it will also use other open source libraries for development.[2] An ad blocking feature is planned.[7] Unlike most new web browsers, Ladybird does not rely on Chromium or Firefox and uses its own rendering engine and JavaScript engine.[8] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ladybird_(web_browser)

[–] sommerset@thelemmy.club 1 points 3 hours ago* (last edited 3 hours ago)

Yeah that's what I'm saying. I watched some interview awhile back, but when I went to install it it was not available yet. Ok fine 2026 - will check it out

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[–] Digit@lemmy.wtf 6 points 6 hours ago

I was hopeful for thundermail.

Not any more, seeing that.

[–] I_Clean_Here@lemmy.world 8 points 8 hours ago (1 children)

But why? Be unique! Don't just do what everyone else does!

[–] Bahnd@lemmy.world 10 points 6 hours ago (4 children)

Given what Microsoft is smoking these days, no AI would be a selling point, and Mozilla does not seem to realize they are playing with fire. Their userbase chose their product instead of using the system defaults of Chrome, Safari, and Internet Exploder. Their users, just like Lemmy, are tech-litrrate and more socially concious than the masses. If an alternative or fork appears, with sufficent support, and Mozilla does not put the breaks on their AI train, were all just going to jump ship. We do it every time a new OS is installed, there is no Firefox loyalty, only lesser evils.

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[–] flemtone@lemmy.world 16 points 9 hours ago

Overpaid CEO has more money than actual sense.

[–] drmoose@lemmy.world 7 points 8 hours ago* (last edited 8 hours ago) (1 children)

Who is this a signal for though? They could silently add the AI features and rally their base on aspects people actually like. It's almost like Firefox doesn't want to succeed

[–] Nalivai@lemmy.world 15 points 7 hours ago

CEOs have this massive psychosis, they really believe everyone wants this bullshit. I have a theory that it's because they were always surrounded by yesmen, and simultaneously they hate people, so for them the LLM is the best thing ever, all the constant agreeing and affirmation with no pesky humanity, and they can't believe there is anyone who don't want that.

[–] QueenHawlSera@sh.itjust.works 11 points 9 hours ago (1 children)

Why do they keep going all in on AI when no one wants it?

[–] SlartyBartFast@sh.itjust.works 3 points 7 hours ago (1 children)

Google threatens to rip their funding if they don't advocate for AI

[–] noxypaws@pawb.social 1 points 13 minutes ago

Is that actually on record somewhere, or just speculation?

[–] tired_n_bored@lemmy.world 32 points 11 hours ago* (last edited 11 hours ago) (1 children)

Mozilla is completely detached from its user base. They think their average user is a Microsoft enthusiast when in reality it's a Debian enjoyer.

[–] kilgore_trout@feddit.it 8 points 8 hours ago (2 children)

They have telemetry to track the number of installations on different systems

[–] helpImTrappedOnline@lemmy.world 9 points 6 hours ago

And most debian user disable telemetry. Their numbers probably show its all windows folk heavily using AI because its the default.

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[–] notreallyhere@lemmy.world 22 points 11 hours ago

CEO = bad

every. single. time.

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