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Mozilla is in a tricky position. It contains both a nonprofit organization dedicated to making the internet a better place for everyone, and a for-profit arm dedicated to, you know, making money. In the best of times, these things feed each other: The company makes great products that advance its goals for the web, and the nonprofit gets to both advocate for a better web and show people what it looks like. But these are not the best of times. Mozilla has spent the last couple of years implementing layoffs and restructuring, attempting to explain how it can fight for privacy and openness when Google pays most of its bills, while trying to find its place in an increasingly frothy AI landscape.

Fun times to be the new Mozilla CEO, right? But when I put all that to Anthony Enzor-DeMeo, the company’s just-announced chief executive, he swears he sees opportunity in all the upheaval. “I think what’s actually needed now is a technology company that people can trust,” Enzor-DeMeo says. “What I’ve seen with AI is an erosion of trust.”

Mozilla is not going to train its own giant LLM anytime soon. But there’s still an AI Mode coming to Firefox next year, which Enzor-DeMeo says will offer users their choice of model and product, all in a browser they can understand and from a company they can trust. “We’re not incentivized to push one model or the other,” he says. “So we’re going to try to go to market with multiple models.”

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[–] Tonava@sopuli.xyz 42 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Programs are like socks, once they get dirty, you change them. Do these people really not understand how this stuff works? Even giants can fall when enough people switch to other options

[–] Zacryon@feddit.org 1 points 5 hours ago

TIL, people consider Mozilla and Firefox a giant.

https://gs.statcounter.com/browser-market-share/

[–] sommerset@thelemmy.club 7 points 1 day ago (7 children)

Oh ya? Where u gonna go? Chrome?

[–] BlameTheAntifa@lemmy.world 5 points 22 hours ago (1 children)
[–] Holytimes@sh.itjust.works 3 points 20 hours ago (1 children)

Wouldn't trust waterfox as far as I could throw a bull elephant.

Librefox or fuck even floorp is better then waterfox.

[–] LifeLikeLady@lemmy.world 3 points 18 hours ago

Why? Just curious

[–] Microtonal_Banana@lemmy.zip 9 points 1 day ago (1 children)
[–] oce@jlai.lu 7 points 23 hours ago (1 children)

Can it survive if Firefox goes down?

[–] sommerset@thelemmy.club 5 points 23 hours ago

Ofc No. But waterfax might disable ai by default.

[–] Tonava@sopuli.xyz 12 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Hell no. For now just gonna switch to some firefox fork that won't include the AI.

[–] roofuskit@lemmy.world 4 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Jumping to the dingy tied to the sinking ship.

[–] Tonava@sopuli.xyz 2 points 23 hours ago

Thus the "for now"

[–] sommerset@thelemmy.club 0 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

That was meant as a sarcasm. Point is there are nonalternatives

[–] lando55@lemmy.zip 4 points 22 hours ago (1 children)

You could always go Safari, at the rate Apple is going with Ai integration you should be good for... well forever really 🤣

[–] noxypaws@pawb.social 1 points 20 hours ago

Safari is only available on Apple hardware and operating systems though

[–] Lyubo@lemmy.ml 5 points 1 day ago (1 children)
[–] sommerset@thelemmy.club 2 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Yeah I've heard of it but is it even installable?

[–] oce@jlai.lu 4 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

Ladybird is an open-source web browser developed by the Ladybird Browser Initiative, a nonprofit organization focused on development of the browser.[1] It is licensed under the BSD 2-Clause License.[2] An alpha release is planned in 2026,[3][4] beta release is expected in 2027, and a stable release for general public in 2028.[5] Originally a component of SerenityOS, it is now being developed as a standalone project.[6] The initiative is funded entirely through donations, with Cloudflare, FUTO, Shopify, and 37signals among its sponsors. Ladybird uses a new browser engine called LibWeb that is being created from scratch by the development team. Unlike SerenityOS, it will also use other open source libraries for development.[2] An ad blocking feature is planned.[7] Unlike most new web browsers, Ladybird does not rely on Chromium or Firefox and uses its own rendering engine and JavaScript engine.[8] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ladybird_(web_browser)

[–] sommerset@thelemmy.club 2 points 23 hours ago* (last edited 23 hours ago)

Yeah that's what I'm saying. I watched some interview awhile back, but when I went to install it it was not available yet. Ok fine 2026 - will check it out

[–] Holytimes@sh.itjust.works 1 points 20 hours ago (2 children)

It's slated for a early 2026 alpha. So it's actually pretty close.

[–] architect@thelemmy.club 2 points 20 hours ago

So no. The answer is no.

[–] sommerset@thelemmy.club 1 points 19 hours ago* (last edited 19 hours ago)

Yeah dude I actually saw primeagen video about it and sort of definitely waiting for it.
i want ublock, dark reader. But willing to tolerate issues - I will use it

[–] sturmblast@lemmy.world 1 points 22 hours ago (1 children)

There are literally dozens of browser options out there.

[–] JcbAzPx@lemmy.world 4 points 18 hours ago

Most of which are just chrome in a trench coat.

[–] Taleya@aussie.zone -2 points 1 day ago (1 children)
[–] kilgore_trout@feddit.it 5 points 1 day ago (2 children)

When clicking Download

Page not found
Oops! We weren't able to find your Azure Front Door Service configuration. If it's a new configuration that you recently created, it might not be ready yet. You should check again in a few minutes. If the problem persists, please contact Azure support

…yeah

Seamonkey is barely maintained.

[–] MissingGhost@lemmy.ml 2 points 22 hours ago

I use SeaMonkey as my usenet client. I prefer it to anything else for that.

[–] Taleya@aussie.zone -2 points 1 day ago

So file a bug report. The link is literally right there