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[–] MimicJar@lemmy.world 3 points 2 days ago (10 children)

They're safer than human drivers. Tesla cars absolutely are not. But Waymo cars? They do seem to be.

https://www.npr.org/2025/12/12/nx-s1-5634879/why-one-trauma-doctor-sees-self-driving-cars-as-a-public-health-breakthrough

It's still early. We still need more data. They should be closely watched. But self driving cars do appear to be safer. That's why they are a great idea. They are making driving and roads better.

[–] jjjalljs@ttrpg.network 5 points 2 days ago (9 children)

I don't have the means or motivation to do research now from the couch, so I'll concede you may be correct. However, I think it might be even safer to take those same billions of dollars and invest them in mass transit and other infrastructure changes. That would mean fewer car accidents, less pollution, nicer spaces, healthier people, healthier economies, etc. private car ownership cannot be the long term solution. If it's not an outright dead end, it's certainly a side street instead of high speed rail (if you'll pardon a strained metaphor).

[–] xthexder@l.sw0.com 1 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

I'd actually be genuinely curious to see how it compares to taxi drivers, bus drivers, or ubers. Since they drive professionally, you'd hope they'd drive a bit safer than the average human.

I'm sure nothing will be able to compete with the safety numbers of trains or just being close enough to walk though.

[–] jj4211@lemmy.world 1 points 1 day ago

That's a good point, also if you can compare like to like conditions and what the data does if you exclude teen drivers. Also if you can identify incidents related to bald tires and brake failures that wouldn't apply.

Also would be interesting to compare human augmented driving miles to full autonomous miles. With the automated emergency braking/collision alert/lane centering assist. Anecdotally was teaching my teen to drive. Suddenly a car pulls out right in front of us, zero warning. If that happened to me, with experience on a formerly normal car, I'm pretty sure I would've wrecked. However my kids reflex to swerve triggered the cars "evasive steering assist" and did an action movie worthy maneuver, avoiding going off into the ditch and returning just right into the lane after getting around the other car.

Thing about autonomous driving is that it seems to get the stupid easy stuff wrong in dangerous ways, but if you have a demanding precise maneuver to make, it has a better chance once that maneuver is needed.

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