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Boiling lobsters while they are alive and conscious will be banned as part of a government strategy to improve animal welfare in England.

Government ministers say that “live boiling is not an acceptable killing method” for crustaceans and alternative guidance will be published.

The practice is already illegal in Switzerland, Norway and New Zealand. Animal welfare charities say that stunning lobsters with an electric gun or chilling them in cold air or ice before boiling them is more humane.

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[–] citizensongbird@lemmy.world 68 points 2 days ago (5 children)

Will always be funny to me that lobsters are such an expensive delicacy at fine dining restaurants when they started out as food for extremely poor people in coastal communities. In the old days the general public viewed eating them as you would view eating a rat today.

[–] exasperation@lemmy.dbzer0.com 47 points 2 days ago (2 children)

Oysters have made the switch between poor people food and rich people food quite a few times. Tuna has made the switch in my lifetime. It probably has something to do with how easy they are to harvest/catch when plentiful versus the results of overfishing, and how delicate the food is in the supply chain.

[–] SupraMario@lemmy.world 21 points 2 days ago (2 children)

Bacon also, it used to be cheap as fuck. Same with chicken wings. Two of the cheapest parts of the animal, now magically nearly the most expensive.

[–] Korhaka@sopuli.xyz 12 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Its both here, cooking bacon is the cheapest boneless meat I have ever seen per weight. But you can also get pretty fancy expensive bacon choices too.

[–] Clent@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Pork chops are cheaper than bacon.

[–] Korhaka@sopuli.xyz 3 points 1 day ago

They aren't here. At least not the cheapest bacon.

[–] TubularTittyFrog@lemmy.world 7 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (2 children)

what are you talking about. bacon and chicken wings are cheap. almost every other desirable cut of pig/chicken is more expensive. chicken wings are often 1-2 dollars a lb.

[–] Horsecook@sh.itjust.works 9 points 2 days ago (1 children)

At my grocery store, pork tenderloin and chicken wings are $6/lb, and pork shoulder or chicken breasts are $3/lb. Bacon starts at $5/lb for the scraps.

[–] TubularTittyFrog@lemmy.world 2 points 2 days ago

where i live chicken breasts are 8 dollars a lb. bacon is like 5 bucks for really nice stuff. chicken wings are 2 bucks. thighs are 6 dollars. pork tenderloin is 9.

[–] SupraMario@lemmy.world 3 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Where are you getting wings that cheap? They're usually like $3-4 a lb in the south and bacon is usually $6+ a lb...only if you grab it in bulk does bacon go down to like $3.50ish and you're buying the rejection stuff that doesn't look pretty but still tastes fine.

[–] TubularTittyFrog@lemmy.world 0 points 2 days ago

the grocery store.

[–] lobut@lemmy.ca 5 points 2 days ago

There's a theory that carbonara used to be a "war time" food.

[–] Prior_Industry@lemmy.world 14 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Give the tech bros long enough and rat will be a delicacy for the rest of us aswell

[–] shittydwarf@piefed.social 4 points 2 days ago (1 children)

It always comes back to demolition man

[–] Prior_Industry@lemmy.world 4 points 2 days ago

Not looking forward to the clamshells.... maybe lobster claws could be a cheap alternative?

[–] SippyCup@lemmy.ml 4 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Lobster is only ok. I don't think I've ever had anything with lobster in it that wasn't independently good, or improved in any meaningful way with lobster.

That said, when lobster was viewed the way you're describing, it was seen as more of a pest. There was so much lobster freely available, it was literally piling up on beaches. No one was fishing for lobsters, they were just scooping them up and then making a rather revolting stew with them. That was being served to prisoners as a form of penance, meant to be bland and unstimulating. Sandy guts and all.

[–] cabillaud@lemmy.world 2 points 1 day ago

There are several types of lobsters. US Red lobster has nothing to do with the big blue ones they have here in fancy restaurants.

[–] axexrx@lemmy.world 2 points 2 days ago

While they were called 'sea rats',they werent considered quiteas bad as rats- it was common for servant's contracts to limit the number of meals lobster could be served to them for, usually 1 or 2 a week, not the hard 0 that serving rat would have been.