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I don't like smartphones. I use a dumbphone.

But this is a wonderful initiative.

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[–] Nobilmantis@feddit.it -1 points 2 weeks ago (8 children)

No headphones jack.

Most people use bluetooth devices nowadays. Few have wired headphones, which they can still use by using a €2 adapter that you just leave plugged to them all the time. Then there is a 0,1% that complains on the internet demanding that phone companies keep a extra hole on their devices for a specific purpose another hole can already do. Oh and HMD phones don't have it either, at least for what i could find.

More repairable

They seem about the same (glass, back, speaker, battery, port), but on the ff5 you can replace the cameras as well.

more flexible

Tf does that mean? You can bend it?

long term support and updates.

Liar? Fairphones have like 8 years of security updates and major android version upgrades. HMD gives like 3 years on their latest devices... What are you talking about?

Cheaper too.

I'll give you that, but it really ends there.

HMD phones are not a bad choice at all but if the affordability isn't first in the list I don't see how they would make a better purchase over a Fairphone.

[–] ISOmorph@feddit.org 15 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (5 children)

I don't know anything about HMD so I can't add to that. However I'd like to correct you regarding the headphone jack. The people that like it so much are generally privacy enthusiasts. Leaving your Bluetooth on makes you easily trackable. Using USB-C headphones helps in that regard but expediates wear and tear on the port by a lot and often makes the phone unusable a lot quicker, because you obviously need it for charging. Audio jacks generally have very low wear and tear. Hope that helps you understand we're not crazed evangilists hanging on to the past for the sake of it.

[–] Lazhward@lemmy.world 4 points 2 weeks ago (3 children)

expediates wear and tear on the port by a lot

How much is a lot? And good thing the usb-c port is a $15 user replaceable part then. Also dongles with two connectors exist if you specifically want to charge and use headphones at the same time.

[–] DNU@lemmy.world 0 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

so everybody who wants to use 3.5mm headphones on phones should just replace their port every quarter? lmao

[–] Lazhward@lemmy.world 2 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Every quarter? This is why I asked what was meant by 'a lot'. If you're going to claim that the extra wear caused would be this extreme I'd like for that to be at least somewhat substantiated.

[–] DNU@lemmy.world 1 points 1 week ago

I can only substantiate my claims with my own experience after buying a new phone. I believe my last two were jackless, and in both cases it got impossible to use the usbc port for listening to audio on the go in like a month or two (constant disconnects). Now this doesnt impact charging (resting position) but its absolutely impossible for me to use in ears on the go (usbc), so id go another step and say its just plain useless.

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