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Emmanuel Macron’s comments come as Germany’s president, Frank-Walter Steinmeier, warns against turning world into ‘robber’s den’

The presidents of France and Germany have sharply condemned US foreign policy under Donald Trump, saying respectively that Washington was “breaking free from international rules” and the world risked turning into a “robber’s den”.

In unusually strong and apparently uncoordinated remarks, Emmanuel Macron and Frank-Walter Steinmeier warned the postwar rules-based international order could soon disintegrate.

“The US is an established power, but one that is gradually turning away from some of its allies and breaking free from the international rules that it was until recently promoting,” Macron told France’s diplomatic corps at the Élysée Palace on Thursday.

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[–] obinice@lemmy.world 14 points 1 day ago (1 children)

In what way does that make his statements here invalid? And, if it's not your intention to throw doubt upon this view of the growing conflict between ourselves and the USA, why bring it up?

People are not one dimensional, it's possible for them to both want things we disagree with, and still be right and aligned with us on other things.

[–] gravitas_deficiency@sh.itjust.works 18 points 23 hours ago* (last edited 23 hours ago)

It doesn’t.

But it’s still extremely concerning and deeply depressing that the PM of one of the most powerful countries in the EU was too much of a neoliberal capitalist fuckstick to even consider making common cause with the left wing of his country’s political spectrum in the interest of shutting out the fascistic RN (rebranded FN) party.

It is good that Macron is condemning orangeboi’s hostility towards our (former?) allies.

It is not good that Macron is being so guarded about it, or that he (and anyone else in European leadership for that matter) seem to have not bothered to put any thought or real effort into a contingency plan for this sort of eventuality. It reminds me very depressingly of the ineffectuality of our own “left” wing, the DNC.

It’s simultaneous inexcusable that Macron cut a deal with the far right in France after literally everyone else pulled out the stops to block them getting a majority, which they did at Macron’s behest, after which he politically backstabbed them.

The point being made is that Macron has some very… uncomfortably flexible political sensibilities that he’s already put on full display to the world, and there’s a definite sense of wariness and mistrust of him as a result. And I can’t say that I blame the French people for feeling that way.