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Granted, the part

The globally recommended app by privacy and security experts, Signal, is now being downloaded massively and tops the Danish Google Play Store

is a little ironic, but you gotta push this winning tide and then work from that.

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[โ€“] saimen@feddit.org -1 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Problem is if they change to Signal now they are less likely to change again to something "better".

[โ€“] devfuuu@lemmy.world 13 points 1 day ago (2 children)

There's no better. When that hopeful better comes we will all think about it.

[โ€“] quoll@lemmy.sdf.org -1 points 21 hours ago (2 children)

pretty big fan of http://delta.chat/ secure and decentralised

[โ€“] devfuuu@lemmy.world 4 points 8 hours ago (1 children)

They are supreme denialists and try to gaslight people into believing that Foward Security is a thing you don't need. I may have it installed and the ui is cute enough, but I can't even consider it hitting close to the level of security Signal employs. It's basically a toy experiment.

[โ€“] quoll@lemmy.sdf.org 3 points 8 hours ago (1 children)

bummer, i had not realised that forward security was not there :/

sounds like its a while off.

https://delta.chat/en/help#pfs

[โ€“] devfuuu@lemmy.world 1 points 6 hours ago

I went there to read it again and their position changed recently. So it's not there, but now they claim that a design is planned to include it in the future, maybe, eventually. Which is better than before since they were really trying to tell people with manyyyy arguments why we shouldn''t need it, which was a completely insane position to have in the world we live in.

[โ€“] AHemlocksLie@lemmy.zip 4 points 21 hours ago (1 children)

Is that not just chat over email? I thought it used to be, and some of the language on the site is still kind of suggestive of it, but it does sound kinda different. Maybe I'm confusing it with something else. If it's still just fancy email, I'm not sure I like that idea since email has so many privacy issues baked in deep.

[โ€“] quoll@lemmy.sdf.org 0 points 20 hours ago

i dont know much sorry, think you would want to start with https://chatmail.at/

[โ€“] Mucki@feddit.org 3 points 1 day ago

Elaborate please.