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[–] reddig33@lemmy.world 5 points 2 days ago (2 children)

In the US, it was the fault of the 30 percent of Americans who don’t give a shit and couldn’t be bothered to get off their asses and vote.

[–] Bonesince1997@lemmy.world 5 points 1 day ago

This goes well beyond one generation.

[–] MacEnvy@lemmy.world 4 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (2 children)

Not sure why you’re letting off the other 30% who voted for Trump, unless it’s just because that’s obvious. They have agency. They go in the bin too.

The idea that only a third of us are good citizens is sobering but completely believable. Jefferson worried about this at length in his writings. He was right on that count.

[–] Eldritch@piefed.world 3 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Or the Democratic leadership and specifically Bill Clinton who enabled this.

[–] reddig33@lemmy.world 1 points 1 day ago (1 children)

This has been going on long before Clinton. Regan got everything deregulated.

More recently though, we had Elizabeth Warren and Lina Khan who tried to unravel this mess. But of course Khan is gone, and Warren has been defanged by a Republican-controlled house, senate, presidency, and judiciary.

[–] Eldritch@piefed.world 2 points 1 day ago

Reagan absolutely fucked everything yes. But Clinton and his 3rd way Democrats did significant damage in this instance all on their own.

[–] MacEnvy@lemmy.world 2 points 1 day ago

I remember. I was alive in those ancient times. He made a terrible bargain.

[–] reddig33@lemmy.world 3 points 2 days ago

Trump supporters are a lost cause. They are brainwashed. They will never change course. And yes, they vote.