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When you accidentally create an anti-capitalist game (lemmygrad.ml)
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[–] pyromaiden@lemmygrad.ml 9 points 1 day ago (2 children)

The Followers of the Apocalypse are a volunteer aid group. There's nothing really communist about them; they're altruists and pacifists motivated primarily by moralism. They don't appear interested in the economic structure of societies, the use of labor, or who owns the modes of production. They're "socialist" in a purely idealist sense.

[–] demerit@lemmygrad.ml 5 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

They’re “socialist” in a purely idealist sense.

I mean they are kinda supposed to be - this is how their leader Nicole speaks/quotes about her in Fallout 1

They claim to want peace, like us. But anyone who disagrees with them just disappears. Their Dark God is not what he seems, believe me.

We never give up hope. We never will, even though most live by the gun these days. And we are concerned with the Children of the Cathedral...

We don't worship so much as follow a set of principles. We want to bring peace back to this wasteland. The world tends toward destruction, so we try to make a difference

After my parents were killed by a marauders, it was time the killing stopped. It's our goal to make this land the way it used to be, before the war.

Nicole is our leader. She's compelled by insight and spirituality to bring peace to a world broken by war.

See the absence of any socialist big words? They are much more christian moralistic in nature.

[–] pyromaiden@lemmygrad.ml 5 points 23 hours ago

Exactly. They're a morality movement rather than a political or economic faction. This is a big reason as to why they keep taking Ls from the NCR and BoS.

[–] ComradeSalad@lemmygrad.ml 5 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

True, but there isn’t much of a society left. Productive forces don’t really exist beyond artisanal and sustenance production, and neither does organized or capitalist modes of production. There isn’t anything to really organize, let alone lead.

They live in commune societies where the collective own the means of production, reject money, they attempt to elevate tribal groups through education, they’re anti-fascist and only maintain a tenuous relationship with the liberal NCR, and attempt to recruit through their outreach.

Society tetters between tribal and early feudal at best, and even then barely. What is a socialist to do in a “society” like that? Volunteer outreach is all that’s left, not like there’s much to do a “revolution” against.

[–] pyromaiden@lemmygrad.ml 5 points 23 hours ago

True, but there isn’t much of a society left. Productive forces don’t really exist beyond artisanal and sustenance production, and neither does organized or capitalist modes of production. There isn’t anything to really organize, let alone lead.

This would be true if they didn't literally come from the NCR - which does in fact have an organized, capitalist mode of production.

The reality is they're simply not Marxists. FotA are closer to Christian missionaries that do charity work.

They live in commune societies where the collective own the means of production, reject money, they attempt to elevate tribal groups through education, they’re anti-fascist and only maintain a tenuous relationship with the liberal NCR, and attempt to recruit through their outreach.

Which makes them closer to utopian socialism rather than full-blown communism.

Society tetters between tribal and early feudal at best, and even then barely. What is a socialist to do in a “society” like that? Volunteer outreach is all that’s left, not like there’s much to do a “revolution” against.

Again this argument would make more sense if the NCR, the Strip, and Caesar's Legion didn't exist. Complex civilizations are coming back and they're reviving exploitative modes of production such as the imperialism of the NCR, the Strip's more basic capitalist model, and the Legion's slave economy.