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[–] d00ery@lemmy.world 4 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

Apologies if the sources aren't great or particularly up-to-date but it looks to me like organic farms account for just 9% of chicken farms in USA. Add to that the practice of chlorine washing, so I find it hard to see the benefits.

https://www.lilsipper.com/97-of-chicken-in-the-usa-is-bleached-here-are-the-brands-thats-not-not-bleaching-our-chicken/

No doubt the USDA is a hotbed of democrat demons intent on selling out the USA

https://www.nass.usda.gov/Publications/AgCensus/2022/Full_Report/Volume_1,_Chapter_1_US/st99_1_030_031.pdf

https://esmis.nal.usda.gov/sites/default/release-files/zg64tk92g/2z10z137s/bn99bh97r/cenorg22.pdf

[–] deHaga@feddit.uk 0 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

EU chicken accounts for less than 5%...

They aren't chlorine washing organic birds, just the ones that are stocked too densely.

[–] d00ery@lemmy.world 1 points 22 hours ago (1 children)

Do you have a source for the chlorine statement?

[–] deHaga@feddit.uk 0 points 21 hours ago (1 children)
[–] d00ery@lemmy.world 1 points 21 hours ago* (last edited 21 hours ago) (1 children)

What's your point here, that the US will suddenly convert all the chicken production to organic? Do they have enough organic chicken to export to us?

Chlorine washing and routine use of antibiotics should not be seen as a way to compensate for cramped or dirty conditions on the farm or in the abattoir.

Or should we just stick with the higher quality we already expect.

Chlorinated chicken imports would also wrestle for market share with UK farmers and producers.

Do you want to support UK consumers and farmers, or not?

[–] deHaga@feddit.uk 2 points 21 hours ago (1 children)

The point is they have a range of bird quality, from worse than UK standards to equal.

It's just good to have multiple suppliers, keeps the price honest. We are a small island that needs to import food. Either we massively increase local production, which won't happen, we don't have the plains for the grain, and our rivers are already full of chicken shit, or we switch to different proteins

[–] d00ery@lemmy.world 1 points 21 hours ago* (last edited 21 hours ago) (1 children)

If only we had some sort of free trade agreement with people who have similar life styles, standards and ideas on democracy. Perhaps our close neighbours, like France, Holland, Germany, (Belgium, Italy at a push, Spain, Portugal, Poland) ...

It'd be even better if we had some sort of shared legislative body so that we could agree those standards.

[–] deHaga@feddit.uk 1 points 21 hours ago

We do, it's called the TCA.

EU regulations are driven by politics and the 25k lobbyists in Brussels.

ISO standards are international and designed for efficiency. I think it's better to follow those personally.