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cross-posted from : https://lemmy.zip/post/56719476

Italy fined Cloudflare 14.2 million euros for refusing to block access to pirate sites on its 1.1.1.1 DNS service, the country’s communications regulatory agency, AGCOM, announced yesterday. Cloudflare said it will fight the penalty and threatened to remove all of its servers from Italian cities.

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[–] fonix232@fedia.io 18 points 1 day ago (1 children)

You fight government overreach by civil disobedience, not by corporatist overreach in the same manner.

If you give a free pass to corporations disobeying laws just because you personally dislike those laws, soon you'll find all regulations are pointless because no corporation follows them...

Also, there's no such thing as "governmental overreach" in a well working system that is FOR the people and BY the people. You elect the representatives, you have a say in what laws get passed. I do agree that we could do with a refresher because the current forms of representative democracy are breaking thanks to (primarily right wing) political false marketing with no repercussions, and nowadays we do have a way to have people give direct input on laws and regulations before they get passed, but that doesn't negate the fact that the government isn't supposed to be some shady ruler class but rather a form of communal governance.

[–] lmmarsano@lemmynsfw.com 2 points 9 hours ago

there’s no such thing as “governmental overreach” in a well working system that is FOR the people and BY the people

Nope: two wolves and a lamb voting on what to have for dinner.

Coercive power can be turned against the individual democratically. A system that gives government the power necessary to protect individual liberty but also denies it authority to abuse liberties is necessary.

civil disobedience, not by corporatist overreach

"corporatist overreach" can be civil disobedience & legal challenges.