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So are western countries as well and don't see you crying about it?
Insisting sanctions to be decided in the UN and not unilaterally by the west when it's NATO expansion that triggered the war is not working against Europe. Providing a framework for peace and trying to facilitate peace talks is not working against Europe. Being the largest trading partner of Ukraine is not working against Europe.
Europe and the US are right?
I'm just stating facts. China is a geopolitical rival that cannot be trusted by the EU. Less militarily dangerous than Russia, but economically dangerous in every way.
You seem very emotional about it though.
Europe is an ant compared to china, that's not a rival.
"I am very smart"
You're just repeating western foreign policy you imperialist bootlicker. Imagine having a zero sum worldview dipshit
I was talking with a Russian expat about"nato threat to Russia", and he just replied laughting "what threat?"
Thank you for your anecdote. Looking at the impotence of NATO in Ukraine I can get the sentiment.
I had one as well that showed me how calculative the Americans are: https://www.c-span.org/clip/public-affairs-event/user-clip-biden-1997-nato-expansion-baltics/5009529
You do understand that Russia would be collapsing right now without Chinese help. They provide all the stuff Russia needs especially dual use goods. China and a bit India not caring about Ukraine keeps Russia running. While breaking ties with the US would remove the power of many us weapons (e.g. the updates on the f16) and the other stuff that is currently brought in from us depots like patriots or information.
Europe shot itself in the knee by not preparing for the continuation of the Ukraine war, so now its only chance is to shoot it in the foot I hope in two years time we are prepared so we don't have to do it again.
You do understand that the war wouldn't have broke out if it weren't for the prospect of NATO expansion?
China provides these for Ukraine as well, so your point is?
Also lmao actually falling for "dual use" (did you know providing water is dual use, as it quenches the thirst of enemy troops?)
Europe shot itself in the foot by not recognizing that expanding a military alliance is seen as a threat when you're not part of it
You understand that you're telling bullshit kremel propaganda?
There was no option for Ukraine to ascend to either EU or NATO at the beginning of the war. This was already achieved by the krimea annexation afterwards it was determined that they didn't want to give up the territory and no one wanted to conquer it for them so there was no realistic discussion about them joining either.
My point on the China thing is that they are aktivly supporting our European enemy so there is a problem with becoming strategic allies? What do you not get about it being a problem if they keep Russia in the war??? And they don't provide it in the same way for Ukraine.
And the last point is again stupid, there never was a threat of an intervention in Russia as long as they have nukes just like there won't be one in North Korea, but in Iran. It's just that Russia is sad that they can't pull a Belarus on Ukraine so everyone has to respect their feelings? What is your point? This really grinds my head.
Lmao
You understand that you're telling bullshit NATO propaganda?
Why are warhawks like mearsheimer saying it's NATO expansion? Why was Joe fucking Biden able to predict in the 90s that NATO expansion would trigger a war?
China is also supporting Ukraine and the peace effort (which got cynically dismissed by Europe). Also the "European enemy" was created by NATO. You had a economic partnerships after the dissolution of the UDSSR. Why was NATO allowed to continue to exist when the basis of it's existence was the UDSSR?
If China were to actively support the war effort on Russias behalf, the war would look much differently.
Why do you not get that that there's a UN as a forum to bring international issues to? Not unilaterally decide to sanction and pressure/coerce other countries because you try to claim moral high ground? Is it because when the issue would be brought to the UN not every country would be siding with the West and Ukraine on this? Is it because everyone with half a brain sees that provoking this war serves western capital?
You mean the drone parts that china was providing Ukraine until the US pressured to not do so anymore?
Not true when the west was pushing Navalny and arming Ukraine. You're either naive or mad that the Russians aren't
Nation states have interests not feelings. Seeing this lack of understanding of geopolitics is also the reason why you keep repeating NATO propaganda
Why are you blaming China when it's obvious that it's the US and European political elite fault that the war is happening
This doesn't make sense. And as you can see with Belarus and Georgia, those countries just want to decide their own futures. But guys like you always go about but Russia didn't want them to and that's threatening. They want to be able to send soldiers and do whatever they want. Why should Russia be in charge they weren't even in charge of the Soviet Union for the most time of its existence.
The UN thing is the part were I will stop talking to you. IF YOU DON'T EVEN UNDERSTAND WHAT THE VETO MEMBERS ARE. WOW RUSSIA WILL OF COURSE NOT BLOCK SANCTIONS AGAINST THEMSELVES.
Belarus sit on the fence for 30 years, until NATO (especially Poland and Lithuania) hybrid warfare and constant subversion culminating in a coup attempt in 2020 resulted in them finally taking the side of Russia because you can't fucking trust Europe on nothing.
Georgia was so infested by US and western money it has by far highest amount of meddling NGO's per population and it was first set up by NATO into ethnic cleaninsing campaign in Souther Ossetia and attacking Russian peacekeeprs there, fortunately they were wiser than Ukraine and retreated after Russia intervened, i guess they were just not nazi enough for them to fight for EU to the last Georgian.
Yeah by all means, US empire and their vassals should definitely let those two countries decide for themselves, unfortunately you cannot be neutral to the world hegemon, the only choice is between subjugation or resistance.
You mean the US and EU deciding the future for them. Guess you never gave a listen to the leaked Nuland call in regards to Ukraine.
You're just trying to justify unilateral sanctions by claiming moral high ground and cry about china not following along when it's obvious to them that this war has been provoked by NATO.
Thank you finally
The expansion of a collective of imperialist nations does not justify another imperialist power's expansion.
Analysis is not justification dipshit
lol ok bud.