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[–] FerretyFever0@fedia.io 14 points 22 hours ago (3 children)

Shit's going to get pretty weird imo. Hopefully it isn't used for eugenics purposes (it probably will be, let's be honest). I don't think that people should be able to change so many things that they become unrecognizable, but I can understand changing a few things per person, voluntarily, obviously.

[–] Beacon@fedia.io 15 points 22 hours ago (1 children)

I believe in bodily autonomy. People should be able to do whatever they want to their own body.

[–] FerretyFever0@fedia.io 6 points 21 hours ago (1 children)

Allowed, sure, just don't think it's a good idea to completely change who you are. I want humans to be recognizable as such. I'm more worried about what parents will be doing to their children, that's where the eugenics shit becomes a problem. Getting rid of "undesirable" traits and whatnot.

[–] bobzer@lemmy.zip 4 points 18 hours ago (1 children)

Some people are way too attached to their disabilities.

[–] FerretyFever0@fedia.io -2 points 17 hours ago (2 children)

Would you prefer that autistics and those with down syndrome cease to exist?

[–] ExcessShiv@lemmy.dbzer0.com 7 points 11 hours ago

Removing mental and physical developmental issues from future generations; yes I personally would prefer that ceases to exist.

Or are you in bad faith trying to equate that with taking people currently alive and executing them, because that is far from the same thing.

[–] bobzer@lemmy.zip 7 points 17 hours ago* (last edited 16 hours ago) (1 children)

How do you feel about NIPT tests and ultrasounds?

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I'll give a real answer in spite of your strawman.

Of course not. I believe every single person's value is innate to their being, not derived from their ability, shape or productivity. Everyone deserves respect (until their actions say otherwise) and equality.

There is nothing about me that makes me better than someone who is neuro divergent or differently abled. However I'm also well aware of the severe physical and emotional challenges that things like severe autism or downs syndrome can cause for both the individual and their families, even when ignoring the additional challenges caused by discrimination from society at large.

Perhaps a really shitty question you should ask yourself is if you could go back in time and choose to be born with downs syndrome, would you?

If not then why? If not, isn't it slightly hypocritical that you believe others, without their consent, should be?

[–] FerretyFever0@fedia.io 2 points 7 hours ago

Individuals with autism and other differences deserve to exist in the future. My brother and I were born with autism, my brother was born with much higher support needs. Yes, there can be challenges, of course there are. But he's happy enough, and I'm not sure he would be happier as a neurotypical. My parents? Well, they might've preferred he not be.

Personally, I'd never choose to born without my autism or ADHD, because it's arguably a part of who I am. If I was born without either, my life would be unrecognizable.

Would I choose to be born with Down Syndrome? I don't know. I've never had it. I might've been a happier person. Might've had way worse of a life. I'd ask some people with it if they'd rather been born without it. Is it not immoral to remove a potential part of their being without their consent?

Let me be clear, I'm sure that plenty of both groups would prefer to have never had it. A majority, I don't know, not sure any surveys or studies have been done on the matter. Not sure there's any way to prove that the issues on either side outweigh the other.

On the discrimination, don't you think that plenty of people will be doing this because of their prejudices?

Also, the original question WAS just a question. It was a bit suggestive, my apologies. I was a bit tired.

[–] black_flag@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 22 hours ago

There are a lot more problems in trying to create the infrastructure to enforce sanctioned uses of any readily accessible technology than there is in the use of said tool. The people who want to do the most harm inevitability wind up in the oversight position, while society tends to create enforcement mechanisms at a social, interpersonal level organically already.

[–] fizzle@quokk.au 2 points 21 hours ago (2 children)

WDYM "for eugenics purposes"?

[–] HeyThisIsntTheYMCA@lemmy.world 2 points 14 hours ago

Watch gattacca

[–] FerretyFever0@fedia.io 8 points 21 hours ago (1 children)
[–] fizzle@quokk.au 1 points 13 hours ago

That's not really "eugenics" as I understand the term but whatever.