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[–] mlg@lemmy.world 28 points 17 hours ago (5 children)

People forgetting even if Trump will be or had been assassinated, Vance would just take his place and continue the train. Besides, Iran has been claiming they can do this since forever with nothing to show for it.

[–] jaybone@lemmy.zip 45 points 16 hours ago (2 children)

The hope is Vance doesn’t have the charisma to keep the cult together.

[–] Throbbing_banjo@lemmy.dbzer0.com 13 points 14 hours ago (1 children)

Neither does Trump. I don't know where the argument that he has some kind of Magic Secret Fascism Sauce comes from. Republicans fucking love idiots and have been rabidly supporting them for decades now, and they'll blindly follow Vance just like they're blindly following Trump. It could be a sentient mop with a bucket hat, they literally do not care. Trump didn't win the election, project 2025 did.

[–] snooggums@piefed.world 9 points 11 hours ago

I don’t know where the argument that he has some kind of Magic Secret Fascism Sauce comes from.

Charisma isn't a universal thing, it is about appealing to a large chunk of the population but not the population as a while. In this case he has been the face for the fascist MAGA movement for like a decade now with people who constantly ignore how his policies harm them directly and still support him. He has charisma when it comes to hateful morons who want to hear a fat old white dude spout the racist shit in their heads without any kind of moral compass that would lead to being embarrassed.

They won't follow Vance because Vance doesn't have the same belligerent and arrogant delivery despite saying the same hateful stuff because it is clear Vance is a try hard spineless wanna be grifter and not someone who has been an entitled shit their entire lives because they were born into wealth. Vance isn't the strongman that the Republican party has been stoked to follow.

[–] Gsus4@mander.xyz 1 points 13 hours ago (1 children)

He doesn't need to, he's already elected and he's been awarded god powers to do whatever he wants...by the SCROTUS.

[–] Corkyskog@sh.itjust.works 6 points 12 hours ago (1 children)

And then all the politicians do the calculus that he doesn't have the mojo to back primary candidates and then they just impeach him.

[–] Gsus4@mander.xyz 1 points 11 hours ago

Fine, that's a good point, I hope so. But like the other comment says: trump is just a way for them to wash their guilt away, it could be anyone and they'll still oblige and then you'll find out that they weren't being forced by anyone all along.

[–] newthrowaway20@lemmy.world 5 points 11 hours ago (1 children)

No one likes Vance. Maga would tear itself apart before it follows JD.

[–] village604@adultswim.fan 2 points 11 hours ago (2 children)

Not if trump is made a martyr.

[–] bold_atlas@lemmy.world 4 points 10 hours ago (1 children)

Remember the bloodbath of reprisal killings that MAGA was promising to deliver for Saint Charley? What ever happened with that?

[–] IckabodKobain@feddit.online 1 points 6 hours ago

See the boys in ICE

[–] newthrowaway20@lemmy.world 2 points 9 hours ago* (last edited 5 hours ago)

To be a martyr you typically have to believe in something bigger than yourself. Trump can't do that. He's too self serving and everyone around him knows it because they wanna be just like him. He could get killed and people might try to make him a martyr, but he only pushes division and hatred and self enrichment, good luck getting anyone aside from the proud boys to rally behind that. They tried to do it with Charlie Kirk too and that amounted to fuck all.

[–] lechekaflan@lemmy.world 6 points 16 hours ago

More or less the bastard packed the line of succession with assholes like him.

[–] b_tr3e@feddit.org 3 points 16 hours ago

I guess Iran has a vice president, too.

[–] Mwa@thelemmy.club 2 points 16 hours ago