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[โ€“] Nangijala@feddit.dk 0 points 1 day ago (1 children)

You are truly lost if you think America is anywhere close to the cruelty of China. Truly. You have had Dictator wannabe Trump in office for one year and you think this is in any way comparable to the decades of oppression that the Chinese have been subjected to?

Trump is terrible, no doubt, and I would be the first one to criticize the American welfare system, or lack thereof, but Americans have not experienced an ounce of what the Chinese people have. You can only say this if you are bad faith or entirely ignorant of the reality of the world.

You might even be a Russian troll at this point. Absolutely divorced from reality.

[โ€“] Spectrism@lemmy.dbzer0.com 0 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

Most of the points you made were about lack of individual freedoms, which I agree is bad, but doesn't come close to actually killing hundreds of thousands, if not millions of people during the past decades like the US did. And why do you keep bringing up Trump? I didn't mention him even once in my comments. I don't care about him, he is a symptom of a much larger issue, not the cause. I'm not just talking about the oppression and killings of people within US borders, but also outside of them, and that's where China doesn't even compare to the US.

If "Trump" and "welfare system" are the only relevant points you got from everything I listed, I'm not sure that I'm the one acting in bad faith. It seems like you purposefully don't even consider all the atrocities of the US outside of their own borders, but why should you, after all they're just some stupid foreigners, right?

Everyone who is even slightly critical of the Western world is a Russian troll, I know. I don't think I'm the one who is acting in bad faith and divorced from reality.

[Addendum]: Something I think you didn't mention yet is the amount of people executed by the Chinese state, even for the simplest "crimes" like possession of drugs. That's about the worst I can think of about China, and it's one aspect that I would actually call a real atrocity that is worse than in the US. But the death penalty shouldn't exist at all, so the US doesn't gain any sympathy points from me in this case either.