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I’m literally just asking, what the Hell’s our reaction to this? (lemmygrad.ml)

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I’m not trying to start an argument, not tryna cause problems, I just wanna know what the Hell’s going on with Yugo. Pls don’t ban me over this, I’ll throw tje post down if necessary.

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[–] BanMeFromPosting@hexbear.net 6 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

Seems like he's just saying right-wing ideology is a result of a lack of education, and lack of education combined with capitalist propaganda in the US has become such an issue that it is ingrained on a deeper level than what has been seen anywhere else - What that means more specifically has yet to be seen. Without knowing more he could believe that such an extent of propaganda could even affect mental development on a national level.

I must be missing something, because that's not incredibly egregious. It could be interpreted as some sort of eugenics-lite statement, but I don't see why it would, considering what else he's saying in the tweet and his general body of work.^[ I don't know if I agree the US is unique, it seems like it is in the modern world, but I'm sure things were worse for the bolsheviks or the spartacists with regards to education of the general population. It could also just be my anti-yank-chauvinism that makes it seem to me like americans are in some way more propagandised, but my general interactions with USians have been baffling]

Oftentimes online someone will phrase themselves poorly, get misinterpreted and dogpiled. The person getting dogpiled will get defensive and contrarian and take some odd position that isn't really what they were initially arguing and isn't what they really believe, but at this point they can't just let things go and they're tired of repeating themselves so they end up digging themselves into a rhetorical hole, trying to explain what they're not saying because they keep getting misunderstood, while getting more and more piled on. Seen it happen a bunch here. Happened to me too. I assume that's what's occurring with yugopnik too, considering the alternative is that he's some sort of chud doing a long con for no discernible reason.

Assume good faith and reread what Yugopnik wrote. What do you think he's trying to say?

edit: added more words + my own vibes about americans + a question at the end